From: chrisk@harddata.com Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 7:34 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com Subject: Re: DS10 special offer from Island Computers In article <382747D7.ACB5CACB@nospam.aonix.com>, Ron Skoog wrote: > > > chrisk@harddata.com wrote: > > > > In article <3827157B.73A7@pstcc.cc.tn.us.net>, > > abuse@127.0.0.1 wrote: > > > > > Which still puts the base system around the $5500-$6000 range... > > > > > > It's hard to even build a system in the $5k range when the base is in > > > the $5k range to start out with... A $2k system like some others want > > > would be out of the question even if the machine was stripped... Which > > > is the point, I think... > > > > -- > > > > Sure, a base model DS10 can be had for under $3,000.00 USD > > > > DS10's are commonly available in the following configuration, for $2999 > > USD. > > > > - 128MB RAM > > - 10GB IDE drive > > - 8MB Elsa GLoria > > - Floppy, CD, Mouse, Keyboard > > > > Of course, we can reconfigure to suit individual needs. > > > > For a sub $2,000.00 USD Alpha, currently you would have to look at a > > 21164 based machine. > > I don't see how... > > I asked Compaq who deals in over-the-counter Alpha chips and they sent > me to Wyle and Pioneer. Wyle has no entries on any Alpha processors and > Pioneer wants $4949.23 for a 21164 at 500MHz. It doesn't seem to me > that Compaq's distribution channels are working very well. > > Pioneer's price range appears to be from 881.54 for a 21064 at 150MHz > to $9873.85 for a 21164 at 600MHz (they don't list any 21264 chips.) > Their prices for the 21164PC chips is more reasonable, starting at > $283.08 for 400MHz and going to $21400 for a 300MHz chip (though they > had a 500MHz chip for $835.38.) I sent Pioneer email asking if their > prices were incorrect but they didn't respond. > > I checked around for what the price was on a UP2000 without any > processor or ram. The number I got (from the sales person API sent me > to) was in excess of $2000 (close to $2500.) I thought this logic board > would support Intel as well as Alpha processors. At this price I can't > see anybody buying one to put a $300 Intell processor on. Ron, I guess then that Pioneer simply has very high prices. This really isn't the place to advertise my products and services - BUT - as I mentioned earlier, we can supply you with a "brand new" bare bones 21164 600MHz based system for under $2,000.00 USD. or a brand new 21264 466MHz based system for under $3,000.00 USD. In fact, most Alpha OEMs like us, can do exactly the same. (There! Now I don't feel so capitalistic!) As far as the UP2000 board goes, there are not any x86 SlotB processor modules. Only Alpha is available in this cartridge. There is hope that down the road AMD will embrace this SlotB design thus opening up a wider market demand for SlotB motherboards and driving the price downwards. However, that is all "hope" - for the time being. Best regards, Chris @ Haerd Data Ltd. http://www.harddata.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.