From: Fred Kleinsorge [kleinsorge@star.enet.dec_nospam.com] Sent: Monday, November 08, 1999 12:53 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com Subject: Re: DS10, elsa synergy and Open3D, OpenGL works? mathog@seqaxp.bio.caltech.edu wrote: > > > One might also wonder why the Elsa card is not supported for 3D work as > Permedia II cards do a fine job of it under WNT (for instance.) > > Comments from the Compaq crew? > I'll add my complaint here as way of an explanation... This card was done as a 2D replacement card for the low-end. There never was any serious thought to using it for 3D. While this card is a fine card for 3D games on a PC, the amount of work it would take to utilize the 3D functionality on the card for VMS is not worth the effort - given the limitations. Most of the "commodity" 3D cards you find for PCs are nearly useless for any serious X11 and UNIX/VMS 3D use. However, as Intel talks about embedding simple 2D into the core chipsets, the commodity card makers are abandoning cheap 2D cards, and trying to build "cheap" 3D cards -- which cost several times what the old 2D cards cost. So you get cards that have things like 11-bit precision (so you need to first do a check to see if you can use hardware or fallback to software), you get a handful of 3D primitives, but no overlay planes. You get 8 bit, 15 bit, or 24-bit pixels - but only a single lookup table - so no mixed pixel formats. In short, the cards cater to the design - and limitations - of NT and Windows. We are currently working on porting the Powerstorm 350 code from UNIX and should have something shipping at ~year end for those who need real 3D. As to the ELSA card, and the Open3D license being bundled on the XP900 -- I'll see what is going on... but the best that will *ever* be done for the ELSA card is software 3D.