Everhart, Glenn From: young_r@eisner.decus.org Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 1998 1:13 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com Subject: Best Oracle Numbers EVER on single AlphaServer Reading my latest InFORM I stumble upon: http://www.digital.com/info/inFORM/issues/issue22/22ov0301.htm "In recent performance tests, Oracle7 on OpenVMS achieved over 600 transactions per second--the best OLTP rates ever achieved for OpenVMS and the best Oracle numbers ever on a single AlphaServer node. These numbers were achieved by employing Oracle, Version 7.3.2.3, on an AlphaServer 8400 (12 CPUs, 440 MHz), running OpenVMS. The VLM capability, now available for Oracle OpenVMS users, can substantially boost OLTP performance and scalability." As we all know, "transactions of the second kind" in reference to RDBMS are the unofficial way of getting the word out on tpmC but vendors can't call them tpmC unless they are fully audited, etc. So with a nod to the "council" I will call them "t per minute", but we really know what they are... Doing the math it works out to over 36000 t per minute. If that was close in cost to the same config Digital posted in October running Sybase, we would be looking at around $75 per t per minute, 35 dollars less than the Sybase number for price-performance comparisons. That Oct 97 Sybase number was 24000+ , suppose Oracle 8 on DUNIX single node did 28000... that would make the VMS numbers we see about 40% better. VMS would be very attractive versus DUNIX, if only someone knew about it. My guess? As the 100K number was wrapping up, the VMS folks got a shot at the hardware before it was torn down. I spent the better part of an hour trying to find the whitepaper the above URL referred to: "see the whitepaper on http://www.openvms.digital.com/" I checked Whitepapers. I searched for OLTP, Oracle and OLTP, Oracle and performance, Oracle and highest, etc. Looked at almost all the URLs at: http://www.digital.com/alphaserver/performance/ I don't give up easy, had to conclude there is no such whitepaper. Whover it was that allowed that little factoid above sneak out, thank you. Looking forward to more crumbs when Galaxy numbers show up "late fall." You know it is rather annoying though when you see an operating system so maligned ... I acknowledge this is the NT/Unix age but if an OS is REALLY good, run with it. Promote it. IBM has no problem supporting/promoting the AS/400 OS --> OS/400. They certainly don't hide it. It is a fine OS and has several strengths. VMS is relegated to crumbs. Crumbs from the Master's table. Rob