From: Michael Joosten [joost@c-lab.de] Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 12:53 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com Subject: Re: PC164, OVMS7.2, isacfg and graphic cards (MACH64, S3 968) Fred Kleinsorge wrote: > > >I don't think you can use the later versions of the Trio64 that had a > >collection of extra letters on the end V+ V2+ or something similar. > > You can use the V+, but not the V2. I actually *have* a server for the V2 > tucked away someplace, but it was never released, and we never sold boards > with a V2 on it. Indeed, the DECW$SERVER_DDX_S3.EXE is somewhat picky... With a friend I checked the options, so most of what follows is just for the records, err, Google: Number Nine GXE64 (S3 Vision868) : Mentioned in DECW$DEVICE_CONFIG_GQ.COM, but just does NOT work (this DECW$SERVER_0_ERROR.LOG version is already purged, so citing a DUMP): 3A74696E 496E6565 72635373 6D763373 s3vmsScreenInit: 0000F0 69562033 53206570 79742070 69684320 Chip type S3 Vi 000100 70707573 20746F6E 20343638 6E6F6973 sion864 not supp 000110 72635373 6D763373 00000A64 6574726F orted...s3vmsScr 000120 4E574F4E 4B4E5520 3A74696E 496E6565 eenInit: UNKNOWN 000130 61666564 202C6570 79742070 69686320 chip type, defa 000140 34366F69 72542033 53206F74 20746C75 ult to S3 Trio64 000150 25783020 3A766552 00000000 0000000A ........Rev: 0x% 000160 0A642520 3D3D2050 4E50202C 78322E32 2.2x, PNP == %d. 000170 72635373 6D763373 00000000 00000000 ........s3vmsScr 000180 79742070 69684320 3A74696E 496E6565 eenInit: Chip ty 000190 0000202C 34366F69 72542033 53206570 pe S3 Trio64, .. 0001A0 3A74696E 496E6565 72635373 6D763373 s3vmsScreenInit: 0001B0 72542033 53206570 79742070 69684320 Chip type S3 Tr 0001C0 73696E69 46202D20 0000202C 32336F69 io32, Still, the plain SYS$GQSDRIVER starts and shows the 'OpenVMS Alpha Operator Console Label'. But no X11 server, sorry. Then, the ELSA GLoria-8 (NO, this is not a Synergy!) with S3 968: Needed the usual PCI-Id tweaks in DECW$USER_CONFIG.DAT, then I got the driver started and the console label. The XServer, though, identified this one as Trio32 with 1MB max. It did produce an image, but alas, with a VSync of 23Hz (early TV sets of the '30 ??) and HSync of 18kHz. So, forget it. I'm somewhat surprised that it did NOT default to Trio64, as the messages in the DUMP seem to indicate. PCI-Id of 968 from Xfree86: #define PCI_CHIP_968 0x88F0 vs. #define PCI_CHIP_TRIO 0x8811 for the Trio32's #define PCI_CHIP_AURORA64VP 0x8812 and 64/64V #define PCI_CHIP_TRIO64UVP 0x8814 While asking some colleagues for their old cards, I went back to the ATI Mach64, which I finally got working by using a 'brute force' SYSMAN IO CONNECT: Assuming the card in ISA slot 1, ANA/SYS CLUE CONF showing that the ISA bus is at TR 3 (PC164), the following managed to activate the driver: mcr sysman io con /vector=0/node=1/adap=3/csr=0 gqa0 /driver=sys$gqddriver (did I mention that 'isacfg' did not work for me?) Still, as Fred (or was it Hoff?) mentioned quite some time ago, this is just an emergency solution, just for a box in the server room, but not as desktop: With 1280x1024, I only get a stable, non-jittering image at 60Hz, slightly jittering at 66Hz, and completely unacceptable at 70Hz. Either you use an old monitor or an LCD. Taking a look into Xfree86's 'Cards' file: NAME Number Nine GXE64 with S3 Trio64 # there seems to be also a Trio version of this card... SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) NAME Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM with S3 Trio64 SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) NAME Diamond Stealth64 Graphics 2xx0 series (Trio64) SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) NAME Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM SE SEE S3 Trio32 (generic) NAME Diamond Stealth64 Video 2001 series (2121/2201) SEE S3 Trio64V+ (generic) NAME Cardex Trio64 SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) NAME Cardex Trio64Pro SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) NAME Miro Crystal 12SD SEE S3 Trio32 (generic) NAME Miro Crystal 22SD SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) NAME SPEA/V7 Mirage P64 with S3 Trio64 SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) NAME Number Nine FX Vision 330 SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) NAME Number Nine FX Motion 331 SEE S3 Trio64V+ (generic) NAME ASUS Video Magic PCI VT64 SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) NAME VideoLogic GrafixStar 400 SEE S3 Trio64V+ (generic) NAME VideoLogic GrafixStar 300 SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) NAME 2 the Max MAXColor S3 Trio64V+ SEE S3 Trio64V+ (generic) NAME DataExpert DSV3365 SEE S3 Trio64V+ (generic) NAME ExpertColor DSV3365 SEE S3 Trio64V+ (generic) NAME DSV3326 SEE S3 Trio64V+ (generic) NAME STB Powergraph 64 Video SEE S3 Trio64V+ (generic) NAME STB Powergraph 64 SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) NAME ELSA Winner 1000TRIO SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) NAME ELSA Winner 1000TRIO/V SEE S3 Trio64V+ (generic) NAME Hercules Terminator 64/Video SEE S3 Trio64V+ (generic) NAME Hercules Graphite Terminator 64/DRAM SEE S3 Trio64 (generic) Still, that probably does not mean that two cards with the same name might have two different chips, as usual (think PCish)... If I'm not mistaken, DEC used the Number Nine FX Motion 331 or Vision 330. To be continued (perhaps), when the next candidates appear. -- Michael Joosten, SBS C-LAB, joost@c-lab.de Fuerstenallee 11, 33094 Paderborn, Germany Phone: +49 5251 606127, Fax: +49 5251 606065 C-LAB is a cooperation of University Paderborn & SIEMENS