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In article <14283.9405101129@cs3.brookes.ac.uk>, s5802362@cs3.oxford-brookes.ac.uk (featherstone pg) writes:
> Hi All,
> 
> Is it possible to have asynchronous DECNet via a LAT port.  I know the Pathworks
> manual says that it is not possible, but I have read somewhere that it is (BUT
> it does say DEC doesn't support it !!).
> 
> If it is possible, how ?
> 
> Cheers, Paul.
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Description: RE: DECNET async via DS200 LAT port ? - Help         
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>In article <1024@mits.com.au>, ALISTAIR@mits.com.au writes:
>>In article <4654.26fa0d1a@decus.com.au>, farnik@decus.com.au writes:
>>> Hi DECNET People,
>>>
>>> I would like to connect a 2400 Baud Async DECNET link via a
>>> DECserver 200 LAT port.
>>>
>>
>>I read else where that this is not supported.  Well no one told our machines,
>>so they work just fine.  The config's for the DECserver, LATCP, and DECnet are
>>shown below.  The modem is setup to ignore modem signals.
>>
>>If you're running VMS 5.2 or 5.3[-1], the NODRIVER is buggy, and should be
>>replaced with the 5.1 version.  The symptons are loss of line sync. and lots
 of
>>errors on the terminal device. I don't know if the problem is solved in 5.4.
>>
>>
.
.  Decserver and NCP setup deleted
.
>>Hope this helps,
>>
>>Alistair Grant
>>(On holiday till 8th October 1990)
>>
>>Internet:     alistair@mits.com.au    PSI Mail:
 psi%0505238730004::alistair
>>Alternate:    alistair%mits.com.au@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
>>              grant@decus.com.au
>>Phone:        +61 3 615 4641	      Fax:          +61 3 615 4408
>>
>My experince is that it works if the speed is 9600 or greater.
>The other guy tried to run it at 2400 that i known wont work.
>/nicholas
>
 
FYI - I have been running DDCMP over our dialup lines (hooked to DS200s)
at 2400 baud for a couple weeks now.  IMHO the connection has proved LESS
buggy than equivelant connections through a DZ11 on our 750.  (Note the same
750 is being used in both cases.)  We have modified the DIALDYN script that
came with PCSA to make the connections for us, and found the whole process
resonably reliable.  We are currently beta testing this distribution with
a number of employees who work from home and want transpearant access to the
files on the VAX and on their PCs at work (via PERMIT).
 
The proceedure we use is the following:
VAX end (if dialup type access is desired) :
 
1. The default terminal type must be set to /DISCONNECT.  We have a line in
   MODPARAMS.DAT with the following:
     TTY_DEFCHAR2=135170   !  21002 hex.
 
2. Register the PC in the NCP database with the following:
   DEFINE NODE address NAME name INBOUND ENDNODE RECIEVE PASSWORD string
 
PC end:  We did a standard install of PCSA from diskette distribution (with
the exception of removing the USERNAME - boy did version 3.1 byte us!)
 
1. For dialup, DEFINE the transmit password to the same thing as the RECEIVE
   password on the VAX.
 
Before starting the network software:
 
1. Dial up the DS200
2. SET FLOW CONTROL DISABLED.
3. Set any FORWARD/BACKWARD/LOCAL SWITCHes to NONE.
4. Connect to your Vax and log in.
5. SET TERMINAL/PROTOCOL=DDCMP/SWITHC=DECNET/MANUAL
6. Exit SETHOST.
7. Start up the network.
8. The USE command, PCMAIL, etc should now work.  Remember that LAD and LAT
   are ethernet only, use NDU (it works!) and CTERM instead.
 
The beauty of this, of course, is that dialup lines can be used for either
standard terminals or DDCMP - we won't have to buy a new set of modems and
phone lines to provide this new service.
 
Please pardon simple syntax errors or omissions - I'm doing this from memory.
 
Best of luck.
 
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In article <4654.26fa0d1a@decus.com.au>, farnik@decus.com.au writes:
> Hi DECNET People,
>
> I would like to connect a 2400 Baud Async DECNET link via a
> DECserver 200 LAT port.
>
 
I read else where that this is not supported.  Well no one told our machines,
so they work just fine.  The config's for the DECserver, LATCP, and DECnet are
shown below.  The modem is setup to ignore modem signals.
 
If you're running VMS 5.2 or 5.3[-1], the NODRIVER is buggy, and should be
replaced with the 5.1 version.  The symptons are loss of line sync. and lots of
errors on the terminal device. I don't know if the problem is solved in 5.4.
 
 
DECserver node BRAHMS :-
 
Port 15: (Remote)                      Server: BRAHMS
 
Character Size:            8           Input Speed:        9600
Flow Control:           None           Output Speed:       9600
Parity:                 None           Modem Control:  Disabled
 
Access:               Remote           Local Switch:       None
Backwards Switch:       None           Name:            PORT_15
Break:                 Local           Session Limit:         4
Forwards Switch:        None           Type:               Soft
 
Preferred Service: None
 
Authorized Groups:   0
(Current)  Groups:   0
 
Enabled Characteristics:
 
Autoprompt,  Loss Notification,  Message Codes,  Verification
 
 
LATCP info :-
 
Local Port Name = LTA415:   <application>
 
   Specified Remote Node Name = BRAHMS
   Specified Remote Service Name = DECNET$A
   Actual Remote Node Name = BRAHMS
   Actual Remote Port Name = PORT_15
   Link Name = LAT$LINK
 
 
DECnet Line info :-
 
Line = LT-0-415
 
Receive buffers          = 4
Controller               = normal
Duplex                   = full
Protocol                 = DDCMP point
Service timer            = 4000
Retransmit timer         = 3000
Line speed               = 9600
Switch                   = disabled
Hangup                   = disabled
 
 
DECnet circuit info :-
 
Circuit Volatile Characteristics as of 25-SEP-1990 11:15:51
 
Circuit = LT-0-415
 
State                    = on
Service                  = enabled
Cost                     = 10
Hello timer              = 15
Verification             = disabled
 
Hope this helps,
 
Alistair Grant
(On holiday till 8th October 1990)
 
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              grant@decus.com.au
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