From: MERC::"uunet!CRVAX.SRI.COM!RELAY-INFO-VAX" 11-APR-1993 19:36 11-APR-1993 19:36:00.00
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Subj: Re: UUCP for VMS? (yes! It's free.)
In article <7APR199320592022@leper.tamu.edu>, botting@leper.tamu.edu (Tye W. Botting, aka Warlock) writes:
> Is there some implementation of UUCP for VMS? And, if so, where/how
> might I get it and wha are it's cpabilities?
> Thanks muchly in advance...
> Tye
I answered this by mail, but since this Q comes up now and then and we haven't
posted this for a while, I'm attaching our standard blurb.
--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems, San Diego CA
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Subject: How to get DECUS UUCP [updated]
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There has been a change in the ftp sites for decus uucp.
Notably, the "root" site (mis1.mis.mcw.edu) has been changed,
and is now "post.its.mcw.edu". Adding to this is the fact that
the new root system is a unix system, and not vms. Currently,
there are 4 major sites that offer decus uucp via anonymous ftp:
Two of them are VMS sites, and the other two are unix-based.
I've made a lot of additions to the "how to get" document, so here it is.
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UUCP_INFO.TXT
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"The canned answer given to folks who want to get a copy of DECUS UUCP"
Last Revision: 11/11/92 Kent C. Brodie (brodie@fps.mcw.edu)
-or- fps!brodie)
How to get DECUS UUCP (Version 2.0):
DECUS UUCP, distributed by the DECUS "VMSNET" working group, is a complete
implementation of UUCP for VMS. It is becoming one of the most popular
"packages" offered from DECUS, and for many VAX sites, it's their only
way to get to the internet. This file describes how you may
obtain your very own copy of the software for little or no cost.
1) via DECUS. By far the most popular method of obtaining DECUS UUCP
is through the VAX SIG TAPES distributed by the DECUS librarians. The
tapes (now available on CDROM, too!) do not cost much (or nothing at all
if you obtain them via your LUG librarian), and you'll get
TONS of stuff besides "just" UUCP. Contact your local DECUS tape
librarian, and find out how you can get the latest set of DECUS tapes.
(You can also order them through the DECUS LIBRARY)
NOTE:
* decus UUCP (V2.0) is NOW available on the SPRING 1992 tapes
* decus UUCP (V1.3) last appeared on the FALL 1990 tapes
2) using FTP via the INTERNET. DECUS UUCP (V2.0) is available via anonymous
ftp from the following sites (on both unix and VMS sites):
ftp.uu.net (137.39.1.9) directory /systems/vms/uucp
(maintained by the folks at uunet)
[a SUN system running UNIX]
post.its.mcw.edu (141.106.32.10) directory /pub/decus_uucp
(maintained by brodie@mis.mcw.edu)
[a DECstation running Ultrix]
ftp.spc.edu (192.107.46.27) directory [.decus_uucp]
(maintained by terry@spcvxa.spc.edu)
[a VAX/VMS system with CMU/TEK TCPIP]
mvb.saic.com (139.121.19.1) directory [.decus_uucp]
(maintained by Mark.berryman@mvb.saic.com)
[a VAX/VMS system with MULTINET]
"post.its.mcw.edu" is the ftp site that *I* maintain, and any
updates I receive will be immediately passed down to the other sites
shown above.
The contents of the 'decus uucp' directory [on VMS systems]
should have the following:
(file sizes listed are VMS disk blocks [=512 bytes each])
DEVEL.BKP;1 16128
MAPS.BKP;1 13167
NEWSDEVEL.BKP;1 7623
* RUN.BKP;1 8001
SUPPDOC.BKP;1 3465
SUPPNEWS.BKP;1 12096
* UU20BOOT.BKP;1 1890
Total of 7 files, 62370 blocks.
Files with a "*" are the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM required. Additionally,
NEW sites (not yet running UUCP) will also need MAPS.BKP.
The "NEWS" files refer to Geoff Huston's ANU-NEWS, which is
also distributed with DECUS UUCP.
The contents of the "decus uucp" directory for unix systems with the
package should look like the following:
* -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 10198 Jul 20 19:52 aaareadme.txt
-rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 4787679 Jul 10 05:01 devel.bkp-z
-rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 2112011 Jul 10 05:17 newsdevel.bkp-z
* -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 85666 Jul 17 00:15 preboot.vms_share
* -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 2460500 Jul 10 05:24 run.bkp-z
-rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 900149 Jul 10 05:27 suppdoc.bkp-z
-rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 3591934 Jul 10 05:37 suppnews.bkp-z
* -rw-rw-r-- 1 3 21 498411 Jul 17 00:22 uu20boot.bkp-z
Files marked with a "*" are the ABSOLUTE MINIMUM required. (note:
the files here are a bit different from the VMS FTP or MAGTAPE
distribution because they're compressed)
Hint: If you're using MULTINET, then do the FTP from mvb.saic.com,
since MULTINET-MULTINET transfers can handle VMS backup savesets
perfectly (with the "TYPE BACKUP" command).
Additionally, If you're really up to it, the ftp site
wuarchive.wustl.edu currently offers the latest VAX SIG decus
tape offerings via anonymous ftp. (the WHOLE tape, no parts!). Be
ready for a lot of transfer time and a lot of pieces, though.
If you do use FTP on any of the above sites, PLEASE be kind.
DECUS UUCP is kind of big, so transfer it during non-peak hours.
3) Via "anonymous uucp".
[thanks to Jamie Hanrahan who arranged for this....]
UUNET also has the package available for pickup via anonymous uucp.
(any DECUS UUCP site running at least V1.2 can make use of this!)
DOCUMENTATION ON USING ANONYMOUS UUCP IS *IN* YOUR EXISTING (V1.2+)
DECUS UUCP DOCUMENTATION (USRGDxx.MEM).
You can use uunet even if you are not a "subscriber" (they have
a 900 number! At the time of writing, connect charges via 900
access costs about $0.40 a minute) (be forwarned: uunet
charges rates based on connect time used.... based on a V.32 modem
(etc), the BASE kit would cost about $10-$12. The ENTIRE kit can
probably be retrieved for under $50.) Although long distance is
the "next best thing to being there", it isn't cheap....
(If all you have is a 2400-baud modem, don't even consider this.....)
The directory to get the files from is ~/systems/vms/uucp and
the very first file to retrieve is "aaareadme.txt". That file
will then document for you everything else you have to do. (what
files to get, how to uncompress them, etc.).
See the unix-based file list above for reference to all the file names
and file sizes for UUNET. You can be the judge as to what it would
cost to transfer knowing your system's capabilities, modem speed,
and connection rate.
4) Lastly, the final method of getting a copy is via your local friendly
mailman. I provide free distribution of the DECUS UUCP package,
but only if you pay the freight.
Package the following:
1 tape (TK50, TK70, TK86 or 9-track)
1 self-addressed, STAMPED envelope to fit the tape **required**
Mail it all to:
DECUS UUCP
c/o Kent Brodie
Faculty Physicians & Surgeons
11200 West Plank Court, Suite 160
Wauwatosa, WI 53226
(If you send me a 9-track tape, I can handle 1600 or 6250bpi.)
If you use 6250, it will all fit on a 600-foot reel. If you need 1600,
then you must send a 2400-foot reel)
U.S. Postage for mailing a TKxx cartridge is something like $2.90.
(thus, for both ways, the total cost is $5.80)
A few notes. I provide this service free of charge, but at the
same time, The Medical College of Wisconsin didn't hire me to make
tape copies either. As I get tapes to make, I make them when I can.
Usual turnaround time is about a week. ("your mileage may vary").
Finally, when it comes to the self-addressed "stamped"
envelope, you can use normal US postal mail, Federal Express, or UPS.
Our office does not normally deal with any other couriers, so please
don't go using DHL or something. If you do use a courier, make sure
to fill out a return delivery form with the charges billed to your
company's account number.
Questions? email me or gimme a call.
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Kent C. Brodie - Sr. Systems Manager InterNet: brodie@fps.mcw.edu
Faculty Physicians & Surgeons uucpNet: fps.mcw.edu!brodie
Medical College of Wisconsin MaBellNet: +1 414 266 5080
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Kent C. Brodie - Sr. Systems & Network Manager InterNet: brodie@fps.mcw.edu
Faculty Physicians & Surgeons uucpNet: fps.mcw.edu!brodie
Medical College of Wisconsin MaBellNet: +1 414 266 5080
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FYI - some changes to the "how to get it". I send these to the author some
time ago, but it seems they didn't make it in to this one...
> ftp.spc.edu (192.107.46.27) directory [.decus_uucp]
> (maintained by terry@spcvxa.spc.edu)
> [a VAX/VMS system with CMU/TEK TCPIP]
Actually, the FTP server is CRUX (a homebrew thing based on CMU).
> Hint: If you're using MULTINET, then do the FTP from mvb.saic.com,
> since MULTINET-MULTINET transfers can handle VMS backup savesets
> perfectly (with the "TYPE BACKUP" command).
ftp.spc.edu also handles these, using the MultiNet FTP extensions.
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