Article 32741 of dec.notes.networking.internet_tools: Title: Excited by AltaVista? Apologies if this is heresy, but is AltaVista really better? I know it has lots of data and is very fast but it never seems as good as Excite (www.excite.com) at actually finding something useful. Here are some examples: 1. I want to find details of VB custom controls which implement outline list boxes. I use the search string: visual basic custom control listbox outline Of the 8 returned initially by AltaVista, 2 are in German, 2 refer to Delphi, 1 to FoxPro, 1 to something called Rivet, 1 to an internet utility called Surfer Central and 1 to resource bytes used by various VB controls. None of these are any use whatsoever. Of the 10 returned by Excite, all are directly related to VB and at least 5 look promising for further investigation. 2. I want to learn to play the piano. I type: teach yourself piano AltaVista returns a couple of useful links but Excite returns a link to "The Piano Education Page - Learning to Play the Piano", which is very comprehensive. 3. I want to find the Banana Labels Web pages. I type: banana labels Excite returns as its first link, "Ilkka Havukkala's Banana Label WWW page", which is where its at. AltaVista has this as link no. 5 on the second page. Some of these examples are trivial but I seem to find all the time that Excite "knows" better than AltaVista what I am looking for. The reason may be that Excite lists first the pages where the search text is the subject of the page itself and not a link to the page. An example of this is the Banana Label page. AltaVista's first link is a page that links to the Banana Label page. Excite's first link is the page itself. As the Web gets bigger, it will become more important that search engines prioritise the many thousands of entries they are likely to find for most searches. At the moment, everyone is impressed by the amount of data indexed. As soon as people find that this means thousands of matches for each search, they are going to look for something more sophisticated. I hope AltaVista will provide it. Julian