From:	CRDGW2::CRDGW2::MRGATE::"SMTP::CRVAX.SRI.COM::RELAY-INFO-VAX" 25-AUG-1990 04:23:44.09
To:	MRGATE::"ARISIA::EVERHART"
CC:	
Subj:	Re: Turning a VAXstation 2000 into an X terminal?

Received:  by crdgw1.ge.com (5.57/GE 1.70)
	 id AA29303; Sat, 25 Aug 90 04:16:50 EDT
Received: From UCBVAX.BERKELEY.EDU by CRVAX.SRI.COM with TCP; Sat, 25 AUG 90 01:07:27 PDT
Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.63/1.42)
	id AA28175; Sat, 25 Aug 90 01:02:55 -0700
Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews
	for info-vax@kl.sri.com (info-vax@kl.sri.com)
	(contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions)
Date: 25 Aug 90 07:40:28 GMT
From: husc9!cleary@husc6.harvard.edu  (Kenneth Cleary)
Organization: Harvard University Science Center   Cambridge, MA
Subject: Re: Turning a VAXstation 2000 into an X terminal?
Message-Id: <4009@husc6.harvard.edu>
References: <23611@muvms3.bitnet>, <900816230253.000001CF@MARVIN.CTSS.CO.UK>, <900825000938.00000359@MARVIN.CTSS.CO.UK>
Sender: info-vax-request@kl.sri.com
To: info-vax@kl.sri.com

In article <900825000938.00000359@MARVIN.CTSS.CO.UK> VERKADE@CTSS.CO.UK (Herman Verkade) writes:
>I would like something slightly more sophisticated that "set host",
>such as firing up a remote session manager on the cluster when I log into my
>VAXstation, or creating a remote session manager from a FileView or Session
>Manager pull-down menu. Somebody must be doing that.
>
>Also, can somebody supply an example of how to start a remote application from
>a FileView pull-down menu? I assume I must do some task-to-task, but what is
>Herman Verkade

Well, what I'd like to do would be to have the X Client running as a detached
process, but the sysadmin ain't too crazy about detached processes floating
around various nodes of the cluster, so he don't go givin' that privilege
away :-)

The semi-workaround is to take advantage of batch queues which are accesible
cluster-wide.  You then submit a short little process to a queue on the
processor you desire the client to run on.  Mine is like:
$ SET DISPLAY/CREAT/NODE=POINT-AT-ME/TRANSPORT=DECNET
$ CREATE/TERM/DETACH
$ EXIT
That is the only exception to the DETACH privilege that I have figured out
so far.  If you have the privilege, then experiment with other than DECterm.
To get that procedure to run from a menu item, go and play around with the
customize verbs & menus options in FileView (or Application defs in Session
Manager, with VMS v5.3).  Basically, just fill in the little blank line for
the command with:
$ SUBMIT/NOKEEP/NOPRINT/QUEUE=other-host_SYS$BATCH   my_detach_process.com
Then, each time you select that menu item, it should be the same as typing
in what is in that command definition. (Make sure you don't submit to a
queue which is frequently busy, or you will be waiting a while. :-)