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Subj:	Summary: list of lists, list of FTP sites

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Subject:  Summary: list of lists, list of FTP sites
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Hello, netlanders:

        Sorry for taking so long to post this, but I have been rather
swamped.  Anyway, here is the promised summary of the list of lists and
the list of FTP sites.

        For BITNET users, a list of discussion groups is available from
"listserv@marist" by sending the commands "get arpanet groups1" through
"get arpanet groups7".  The first part contains an index, the others
contain detailed descriptions of the groups.  Be warned, however: these
files are *HUGE*.  Get them all only if you must -- there are hundreds
of groups, with discussion topics ranging from AIDS research to Zmodem.
I think MARIST also has an Internet connection, so it should be possible
for Internet users to get this list as well (I am not 100% sure,
however).

        FTP site lists are available from:

        scam.berkeley.edu (SEE_ALSO)            (* Internet *)
        uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (filename unknown)     (* Internet *)
        listserv@unmvm ("get internet library") (* BITNET *)

        In addition, I have made my own FTP site list from the replies I
received.  If you would like a copy, send a SINGLE LINE message
containing your network address (<user>@<node>.<domain> for
Internetters, <user>@<node> for BITNETters) and subject "Request for FTP
site list" to the address in my signature.  It's quite a large list, so
I am not posting it to the net.  BE PATIENT!  I'm very busy, what with
finals, etc., and may not be able to attend to your requests for a week
or so.

        Many thanks to all who replied.

                                Rahul Mangaldas.

                  BITNET:       rmangaldas@clarku
                Internet:       rmangaldas@clarku.bitnet

Disclaimer:     I am supplying these lists as is and make no warranties,
express or implied.  (Your state may grant you specific legal rights
blah-de-blah...whoosh...pouah!).

--------------------------------

P.S.:   Will the antagonists in the Unix vs. VMS war going on right now
on INFO-VAX please take their f***ing crap elsewhere?  I'm tired of
running out of disk quota only to find it's being taken up by the
ramblings of some Unix or VMS zealot (idiot?).  Discuss this in private,
if you must.  Don't send a zillion page message to INFO-VAX.  As it is,
the signal-to-noise ratio of INFO-VAX is pretty low.  Why the hell do
you think the INFO-VAX moderators put out the monthly posting on network
etiquette?  Read it, damn it, and follow the guidlines.

        Also, just because some John in Timbuktu wants to know whether
he can use his VAX to control his electrofantasmagic ice cream maker
doesn't mean the rest of the net is interested; if you have an answer,
post it *DIRECTLY* to the guy who asked the question.  And to the guys
who ask the questions: post summaries.

        We're in this together -- let's have some discipline and
co-operation: for all our sakes.