INFO-VAX Tue, 16 Sep 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 509 Contents: DS10 systems in stock HP to axe 24,6000 jobs Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs Re: HP to market a new OS for their PCs? Re: Is there an updated Ghostscript for VMS? Re: License generator... Re: License generator... Re: License generator... Re: License generator... Re: License generator... Re: Loose Cannon-dian Re: Loose Cannon-dian Re: Loose Cannon-dian Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs] Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs] Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs] RE: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs] Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs] OpenVMS Architect/Consultant Position Available Re: OpenVMS Architect/Consultant Position Available Re: OpenVMS Architect/Consultant Position Available Re: OpenVMS Architect/Consultant Position Available Re: OpenVMS Architect/Consultant Position Available TCP/IP Printer Queue Problems TCP/IP Printer Queue Problems Re: TCP/IP Printer Queue Problems ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:50:37 -0400 From: "David" Subject: DS10 systems in stock Message-ID: We have quite a few DS10 systems in stock FYI -- David B Turner ============================================= Island Computers US Corp PO Box 86 Tybee GA 31328 Toll Free: 1-877 636 4332 x201, Mobile x251 Email: dturner@islandco.com International & Local: (001)- 404-806-7749 Fax: 912 786 8505 Web: www.islandco.com ============================================= ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 02:35:38 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs Message-ID: <48cf544d$0$12378$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> BBC reports this morning that HP is to axe 24,600 jobs worldwide, half of which will be in the USA. There is mention that is is related to the recent acquisition of EDS. This cut represents 7.4% of its workforce. Since VMS was recently compacted from ist original ZKO size to fit into a couple of spare offices in the basement of some existing HP building, it is not known how many job cuts VMS will get this time around. Good luck to VMS engineering/admin staff. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 07:05:14 GMT From: Phaeton Subject: Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs Message-ID: <48cf5aa9$1@news.comindico.com.au> JF Mezei wrote: > BBC reports this morning that HP is to axe 24,600 jobs worldwide, half > of which will be in the USA. There is mention that is is related to the > recent acquisition of EDS. This cut represents 7.4% of its workforce. > > Since VMS was recently compacted from ist original ZKO size to fit into > a couple of spare offices in the basement of some existing HP building, > it is not known how many job cuts VMS will get this time around. > > Good luck to VMS engineering/admin staff. http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/16/2365482.htm?section=justin Hewlett-Packard to slash 24,600 jobs United States technology giant Hewlett-Packard has announced it will slash 24,600 jobs worldwide over the next three years. The cuts are part of its integration with computer services firm Electronic Data Systems. The job cuts would allow HP "to restructure the EDS business group to streamline costs, invest in growth and drive shareholder value," HP said in a statement. About 7.5 per cent of the combined work force would be affected, with about half of the cuts taking place in the United States, HP said. The work force reduction aims to "streamline the combined company's services businesses," and once complete is expected to "result in annual cost savings of approximately $2.2 billion." In May, HP inked a deal to buy the Texas-based technology company for $US25 per share. After approval by shareholders as well as US and foreign regulators, the acquisition was finalised in August. The new HP services includes annual revenues of more than $47 billion and 210,000 employees, operating in more than 80 countries. The deal was expected to create a global powerhouse in computer services to compete against IBM. - AFP -------------------------------------------- Cheers, Csaba ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| http://csabaharangozo.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]: You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the track. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:57:51 -0700 (PDT) From: IanMiller Subject: Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs Message-ID: none of this is a surprise and they have said they are cutting HR, finance etc as well. I wish they cut a few layers of management but I don't expect that to happen. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:52:33 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs Message-ID: IanMiller wrote: > none of this is a surprise and they have said they are cutting HR, > finance etc as well. > > I wish they cut a few layers of management but I don't expect that to > happen. I expect you're right. The "two story outhouse" you know. . . ! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:11:39 -0500 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs Message-ID: <48CFE8CB.44413846@spam.comcast.net> Phaeton wrote: > [snip] > The new HP services includes annual revenues of more than $47 billion and 210,000 > employees, [snip] ...less than .001% of whom can spell "VMS". D.J.D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:45:54 +0200 From: Michael Kraemer Subject: Re: HP to market a new OS for their PCs? Message-ID: Jan-Erik Söderholm schrieb: > > I already added a comment saying I hope they will > > market VMS to the desktop. > > Why ? because a cool native VMS desktop box would be about the only way to attract younger people. > There are other OS'es that's far better for the desktop. > I see no reason today why anyone would use VMS on > his/her desktop, apart from some die-hards and hobbyists. > > For a business standpoint, VMS must be one of the > worst choises for the desktop today. It had it's best days when it was sold as a desktop system. The decline went parallel to the neglection of the desktop. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:08:48 -0500 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: Is there an updated Ghostscript for VMS? Message-ID: <48CFE820.8381C807@spam.comcast.net> "Richard B. Gilbert" wrote: > > Malcolm Dunnett wrote: > > I am using ghostscript 8.54 on my Alpha servers, using a kit that Mark > > Berryman build back in 2006. > > > > I have tried downloading the latest version, but the build fails with > > MMK spitting out a "syntax error" from one of the .mak files. > > > > Has anyone built a newer version of ghostscript for VMS? If so, any > > hints on how to get past this error (and on how well it works) > > > > Thanks in advance. > > How about fixing the failing line in the .mak file? Are you volunteering? D.J.D. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 08:35:55 +0100 From: Mark McIntyre Subject: Re: License generator... Message-ID: Tom Linden wrote: > On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 13:34:18 -0700, Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to > reply wrote: > >> In article , >> koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes: >> >>> In article , Mark >>> McIntyre writes: >>> > >>> > Hobbyist licenses cost 12.5p per day, and include a huge number of >>> > products. >>> >>> Hobbyist licenses for VMS are free. >> >> They are free for DECUS (or whatever it is called this week), members, >> but that membership is, I think, not free in all countries. The license is free, but membership of HPUG-UK isn't..... :-) > We also provide free PL/I licenses for hobbysists, because we believe is > all > too brief to have to write code in C. :-) I beg to differ but then I cut my programming teeth with F77 on an 8800 - and see my sig... -- Mark McIntyre CLC FAQ CLC readme: ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:28:33 +0000 (UTC) From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: License generator... Message-ID: In article , John Santos writes: > That said, current individual membership is $50 (35 Euro) and is good > through the end of next year. In Germany, it is EUR 100, quite a bit more. I think it is a deliberate change in policy. This has been discussed quite a bit (in German) in de.comp.os.vms. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Sep 2008 10:49:13 GMT From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: License generator... Message-ID: <6j9h98F24d07U1@mid.individual.net> In article , John Santos writes: > > That said, current individual membership is $50 (35 Euro) and is good > through the end of next year. IIRC, DECUS used to be $90 for an individual > membership. Cheaper than 1 year of Norton AntiVirus. :-) Maybe, but 1 year of Norton AntiVirus is of more utility and value. :-) When compared to DECUS it is pretty sad that the greatest value in Encompass membership is the access to the VMS Hobbyist Program. :-( bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves billg999@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include ------------------------------ Date: 16 Sep 2008 11:45:22 GMT From: billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: Re: License generator... Message-ID: <6j9kiiF24beuU1@mid.individual.net> In article , helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: > In article , John Santos > writes: > >> That said, current individual membership is $50 (35 Euro) and is good >> through the end of next year. > > In Germany, it is EUR 100, quite a bit more. I think it is a deliberate > change in policy. This has been discussed quite a bit (in German) in > de.comp.os.vms. Hmmm... Hadn't heard of that newsgroup. Any interesting discussions there? I'll have to check it out. bill -- Bill Gunshannon | de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n. Three wolves billg999@cs.scranton.edu | and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton | Scranton, Pennsylvania | #include ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:55:45 +0000 (UTC) From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: License generator... Message-ID: In article <6j9kiiF24beuU1@mid.individual.net>, billg999@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: > > In Germany, it is EUR 100, quite a bit more. I think it is a deliberate > > change in policy. This has been discussed quite a bit (in German) in > > de.comp.os.vms. > > Hmmm... Hadn't heard of that newsgroup. Any interesting discussions there? > I'll have to check it out. It is relatively low-traffic with a few more or less regular posters. For discussions about German memberships, buying/selling/trading hardware etc in Europe etc it's probably more appropriate than comp.os.vms. The threads tend to stay on-topic. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Sep 2008 07:19:04 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Loose Cannon-dian Message-ID: <8wS1sCVudhlj@eisner.encompasserve.org> In article <3e9d55bc-97d2-4d2f-8aa1-efc55f7a84a7@a70g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, johnwallace4@yahoo.co.uk writes: > > In respect of your later post: re who's been looking at VMS security > and when: did you know that the VMS listings were widely available > (for free, iirc) inside DEC, and were available for a relatively small > fee to customers (systems houses, etc) outside DEC ? They may still be > available, I don't know. Prior to about VMS 4.0, listings on microfiche shipped with the binaries. So it was awfully hard to install VMS on a VAX without also having access to the listings. They are currently available for a reasonable price to customers who have justification. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Sep 2008 07:20:49 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Loose Cannon-dian Message-ID: In article <00A7FACE.27383E58@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing) writes: > > I think you're making good points, but this is basically an argument you > can't win. Their position is that they didn't know much about the system, > didn't try very hard, and found some vulnerabilities, at least one of which > has now resulted in a MUP to fix a 20+ year old problem. At this point > we're better off saying "thank you, and keep up the good work" than in > arguing from first principles about how the better engineering and the > internal code review and the good design means that there are fewer > vulnerabilities than in other systems which have been bashed on harder > than VMS has during, oh, the entire lifetime of the commercial internet. I have no problem with what they've done, and I do thank them for their work. It's the "quality is impossible" attitude they're conveying that I have a problem with. ------------------------------ Date: 16 Sep 2008 07:26:48 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: Loose Cannon-dian Message-ID: <0aw1fVhp3U6b@eisner.encompasserve.org> In article , bugs@signedness.org writes: > It is funny you should mention SUID 0.. Yes great care must be taken > when you give a "user controlled" process euid 0.. But you have the > same problem with VMS don't you? Only there the privs are called > BYPASS, SETPRV, CMKRL, SYSPRV etc but essentially those and a few more > mean the same thing as uid/euid 0 - complete control over the system. > Even HP acknowledges this although I can't find the link right now. That's the point. If you need to do something on UNIX you typically SUID 0 and right away all kinds of little exploits are wide open. If you need to do something on VMS you give only what is needed, and while some of these can be used to gain full control it's not trivial to get there, and it's easier to make sure it's not possible through the expoised interface. Making security easy to get right is an important part of system design. > If you want to be in denial about security flaws in VMS that is your > choice, and you'll be glad to hear we don't have any more conferences > planned so we don't have to update our slides and are unlikely to look > for more bugs in VMS unless a client asks us. I'm not in denial. I was one of the first to post here, that yes, you found something. It's you're attititude that quality is impossible that I won't swallow. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:57:09 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs] Message-ID: <00A7FB51.E6B516B1@SendSpamHere.ORG> In article <48cf5aa9$1@news.comindico.com.au>, Phaeton writes: >{...snip...} > > Cheers, Csaba > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| http://csabaharangozo.blogspot.com >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]: > > You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the track. Csaba, I checked out your blogspot and saw a mention of progressive rock. Check out my internet radio station (Aural Moon) if you're interested in prog. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC) Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright notice, disclaimer and quotations. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:33:17 GMT From: Phaeton Subject: Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs] Message-ID: <48cfa78c$1@news.comindico.com.au> VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article<48cf5aa9$1@news.comindico.com.au>, Phaeton writes: >> {...snip...} >> >> Cheers, Csaba >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| http://csabaharangozo.blogspot.com >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]: >> >> You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the track. > > Csaba, I checked out your blogspot and saw a mention of progressive rock. > Check out my internet radio station (Aural Moon) if you're interested in > prog. Thanks, Brian. I think I've already visited that site, a few times. Currently I am downloading old stuff from the net, mainly rare European 70s prog ( being an older guy as most VMS people tend to be :-) ) Not really an aficionado, just getting into it, retrospectively, as I didn't have the opportunity in my youth in communist Hungary... The 'net is a godsend in this respect, lots of old music is out there in P2P world :-) Cheers, Csaba ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |d|i|g|i|t|a|l| http://csabaharangozo.blogspot.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- EARTH::AUSTRALIA:[SYDNEY]HARANGOZO.CSABA;1, delete? [N]: You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the track. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:46:50 +0000 (UTC) From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs] Message-ID: In article <48cfa78c$1@news.comindico.com.au>, Phaeton writes: > Thanks, Brian. I think I've already visited that site, a few times. > Currently I am downloading old stuff from the net, mainly rare European > 70s prog ( being an older guy as most VMS people tend to be :-) ) At the store "Saturn" a few days ago (where one can scan in the barcode of a CD and here about 20 seconds of each song---this system runs on VMS, by the way, so this post is on-topic), I noticed that Nektar have a new album. How's that for rare 70s prog? :-) Also speaking of 70s prog (but not rare), Richard Wright has died. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:28:51 +0000 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: RE: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs] Message-ID: <9D02E14BC0A2AE43A5D16A4CD8EC5A593ED603422E@GVW1158EXB.americas.hpqcorp.net> > -----Original Message----- > From: Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply > [mailto:helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de] > Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:47 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs] > > In article <48cfa78c$1@news.comindico.com.au>, Phaeton > writes: > > > Thanks, Brian. I think I've already visited that site, a few > times. > > Currently I am downloading old stuff from the net, mainly rare > European > > 70s prog ( being an older guy as most VMS people tend to be :-) > ) > > At the store "Saturn" a few days ago (where one can scan in the barcode > of a CD and here about 20 seconds of each song---this system runs on > VMS, by the way, so this post is on-topic), I noticed that Nektar have > a > new album. How's that for rare 70s prog? :-) Also speaking of 70s > prog (but not rare), Richard Wright has died. Saturn is not only a OpenVMS Integrity Customer, but also a great testimonial: http://tinyurl.com/2ne7cu (PDF + video testimonial) Making great music .. :-) Regards Kerry Main Senior Consultant HP Services Canada Voice: 613-254-8911 Fax: 613-591-4477 kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT) OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:51:10 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Music for Csaba. [as: HP to axe 24,6000 jobs] Message-ID: <00A7FB7A.F9C34277@SendSpamHere.ORG> In article , helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: >In article <48cfa78c$1@news.comindico.com.au>, Phaeton > writes: > >> Thanks, Brian. I think I've already visited that site, a few times. >> Currently I am downloading old stuff from the net, mainly rare European >> 70s prog ( being an older guy as most VMS people tend to be :-) ) > >At the store "Saturn" a few days ago (where one can scan in the barcode >of a CD and here about 20 seconds of each song---this system runs on >VMS, by the way, so this post is on-topic), I noticed that Nektar have a Cool! >new album. How's that for rare 70s prog? :-) Also speaking of 70s >prog (but not rare), Richard Wright has died. Back off topic... I've seen Nektar in the '70s and recently, even photographed them, a few years ago. They will be playing as a headliner at a festival in May '09 here in the states. I the official photographer for that fest too. Sad about Richard Wright. I queued up "Great Gig In The Sky" as soon as I heard the news since he's playing that gig now. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC) Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright notice, disclaimer and quotations. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:58:35 -0700 (PDT) From: IanMiller Subject: OpenVMS Architect/Consultant Position Available Message-ID: - Start Date: Oct 1, 2008 - Location: Syracuse, NY - Duration: 6 months, 50% of the work can be done off-site http://www.openvms.org/stories.php?story=08/09/15/8306704 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 04:49:07 -0700 (PDT) From: FrankS Subject: Re: OpenVMS Architect/Consultant Position Available Message-ID: <83d2835f-dda1-44cb-b36a-166393c7f729@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com> On Sep 16, 4:58=A0am, IanMiller wrote: > - Start Date: Oct 1, 2008 > - Location: Syracuse, NY > - Duration: 6 months, 50% of the work can be done off-site > > http://www.openvms.org/stories.php?story=3D08/09/15/8306704 That's interesting. It says this will be a "migration from the legacy systems" and onto an AlphaServer 2100. I never thought I'd see an AS2100 considered non-legacy again. :-) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 11:57:32 +0000 (UTC) From: helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) Subject: Re: OpenVMS Architect/Consultant Position Available Message-ID: In article <83d2835f-dda1-44cb-b36a-166393c7f729@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, FrankS writes: > That's interesting. It says this will be a "migration from the legacy > systems" and onto an AlphaServer 2100. > > I never thought I'd see an AS2100 considered non-legacy again. Is this the EV4 or EV45 AS2100? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 12:16:55 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: OpenVMS Architect/Consultant Position Available Message-ID: <00A7FB5D.0B58B416@SendSpamHere.ORG> In article , helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: >In article ><83d2835f-dda1-44cb-b36a-166393c7f729@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, >FrankS writes: > >> That's interesting. It says this will be a "migration from the legacy >> systems" and onto an AlphaServer 2100. >> >> I never thought I'd see an AS2100 considered non-legacy again. > >Is this the EV4 or EV45 AS2100? I've fired off an email to the POC for more information. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC) Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright notice, disclaimer and quotations. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:54:19 -0700 (PDT) From: sean@obanion.us Subject: Re: OpenVMS Architect/Consultant Position Available Message-ID: I recall that the AS2100 was tricky to write IO drivers for because the system had several bus addressing modes to map the IO address space in the longword space of the CPU. So if you wanted to get to a byte addressed register on a card you would change the mapping so that byte addresses on the bus were found on longword address from the CPUs point of view. And I think specify a base address as well, since the 32 (or was it 64?) bit address of the bus as seen as bytes was larger that the physical address space of the EV4. Once the word and byte operands were added (EV5?), and IO boards understood longword only register spacing, this problem went away, leaving the 2100 and it's relatives (seems like the 2000, 1200, and one other...) with unique IO driver requirements. They must have a lot of 2100s to make this worthwhile... Sean On Sep 16, 5:16=A0am, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article , hel...@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phi= llip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes: > > >In article > ><83d2835f-dda1-44cb-b36a-166393c7f...@25g2000hsx.googlegroups.com>, > >FrankS writes: > > >> That's interesting. =A0It says this will be a "migration from the lega= cy > >> systems" and onto an AlphaServer 2100. > > >> I never thought I'd see an AS2100 considered non-legacy again. > > >Is this the EV4 or EV45 AS2100? =A0 > > I've fired off an email to the POC for more information. =A0 > > -- > VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker =A0 =A0 =A0VAXman(at)TME= SIS(dot)COM > > ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional prote= ction > no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (= NJSC) > > Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. =A0Publication of _this_ usenet article = outside > of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copy= right > notice, disclaimer and quotations. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:57:13 -0400 From: "Carmine Castiglia" Subject: TCP/IP Printer Queue Problems Message-ID: <48cf759f$1$4879$607ed4bc@cv.net> File this under "Life's Little Annoyances" I am running DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V4.2 on a AlphaServer 1200 5/533 4MB running OpenVMS V7.1-1H2 with several print queues configured and working without trouble. On the rare occasions when I need to add a print server queue I almost invaribly run into one odd problem or another. At the moment, I would like to configure a print server queue to enable printing to a Brother Intellifax 4750e (http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/BSC/public/files/dlf/doc002093/NC8100HUK_A.pdf) which is already on the network and accessible to Windows PCs using LPR Protocol and "BINARY_P1" as the queue name. I have added an entry to the UCX Hosts database as follows: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ACCT$FAX, acct$fax SYS$STARTUP:UCX$LPD_STARTUP.COM contains the following: $ init/queue/start- /owner=[1,4]- /retain=error- /device=server- /process=ucx$lpd_smb- /protection=(s:e,g:r,w:w,o:d) ACCT$FAX - /library=emsdevctl_hplj - /form=normal/schedule=nosize - /default=(nofeed,form=normal) and UCX$PRINTCAP.DAT contains: ACCT$FAX|acct$fax:\ :lf=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/ACCT$FAX.LOG:\ :lp=ACCT$FAX:\ :rm=acct$fax:\ :rp=TEXT_P1:\ :sd=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/ACCT$FAX:\ :cr: The queue initializes and starts without problem and sending a print command to the queue gives every indication that it is working normally: $ pri/que=acct$fax login.com Job LOGIN (queue ACCT$FAX, entry 859) started on ACCT$FAX $ Job LOGIN (queue ACCT$FAX, entry 859) completed $ But, the printer shows no signs of life and nothing prints. The IP address in the Host entry is correct, UCX$LPD_SPOOL:ACCT$FAX.DIR exists and has the same Protection as similar folders for working queues (System:RWE, Owner:RWE, Group:RE, World:RWED). What am I missing here?? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 09:56:40 -0400 From: "Carmine Castiglia" Subject: TCP/IP Printer Queue Problems Message-ID: <48cf759f$0$4879$607ed4bc@cv.net> File this under "Life's Little Annoyances" I am running DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V4.2 on a AlphaServer 1200 5/533 4MB running OpenVMS V7.1-1H2 with several print queues configured and working without trouble. On the rare occasions when I need to add a print server queue I almost invaribly run into one odd problem or another. At the moment, I would like to configure a print server queue to enable printing to a Brother Intellifax 4750e (http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/BSC/public/files/dlf/doc002093/NC8100HUK_A.pdf) which is already on the network and accessible to Windows PCs using LPR Protocol and "BINARY_P1" as the queue name. I have added an entry to the UCX Hosts database as follows: xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx ACCT$FAX, acct$fax SYS$STARTUP:UCX$LPD_STARTUP.COM contains the following: $ init/queue/start- /owner=[1,4]- /retain=error- /device=server- /process=ucx$lpd_smb- /protection=(s:e,g:r,w:w,o:d) ACCT$FAX - /library=emsdevctl_hplj - /form=normal/schedule=nosize - /default=(nofeed,form=normal) and UCX$PRINTCAP.DAT contains: ACCT$FAX|acct$fax:\ :lf=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/ACCT$FAX.LOG:\ :lp=ACCT$FAX:\ :rm=acct$fax:\ :rp=TEXT_P1:\ :sd=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/ACCT$FAX:\ :cr: The queue initializes and starts without problem and sending a print command to the queue gives every indication that it is working normally: $ pri/que=acct$fax login.com Job LOGIN (queue ACCT$FAX, entry 859) started on ACCT$FAX $ Job LOGIN (queue ACCT$FAX, entry 859) completed $ But, the printer shows no signs of life and nothing prints. The IP address in the Host entry is correct, UCX$LPD_SPOOL:ACCT$FAX.DIR exists and has the same Protection as similar folders for working queues (System:RWE, Owner:RWE, Group:RE, World:RWED). What am I missing here?? ------------------------------ Date: 16 Sep 2008 12:09:18 -0500 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: TCP/IP Printer Queue Problems Message-ID: In article <48cf759f$1$4879$607ed4bc@cv.net>, "Carmine Castiglia" writes: > > What am I missing here?? Are you sending data that the printer understands? Some PostScript printers, for example, will ignore plain text unless you manually tell them to report errors. Then they'll tell you all that plain text is not valid PS commands. DCPS, of course, can be configured to generate the PS for you in that case. ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.509 ************************