INFO-VAX Wed, 27 Aug 2008 Volume 2008 : Issue 468 Contents: Dat Files Re: Dat Files Re: Dat Files Re: Dat Files Re: Dat Files Re: Putting my Vax in the network Re: Putting my Vax in the network Re: Putting my Vax in the network Re: Putting my Vax in the network Re: SMGRTL patch available on ITRC ftp site Re: [RBL] Current status? Re: [VMS] SMGRTL Issue ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:14:50 -0500 From: Chico Che <jsisk24@yahoo.com> Subject: Dat Files Message-ID: <Xns9B067C91DE5C9Chicoche@216.196.97.131> I have an OpenVMS Alpah System that has RMS data files. I have a .dat file that if edited you can see clearly fixed length fields in there. The question I have where would I find the files that would tell me what field is what and the length of that field. So I can know the data structure of the dat file. TIA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:55:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Gezelter <gezelter@rlgsc.com> Subject: Re: Dat Files Message-ID: <67f8fafd-9a50-4372-9661-0766d8f24e51@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> On Aug 26, 2:14 pm, Chico Che <jsis...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I have an OpenVMS Alpah System that has RMS data files. I have a .dat file > that if edited you can see clearly fixed length fields in there. The > question I have where would I find the files that would tell me what field > is what and the length of that field. So I can know the data structure of > the dat file. > > TIA Chico, This post does not mention if the files are sequential or indexed. RMS files do not contain record descriptions internally. The best chance of obtaining that information is in the programs that actually create and maintain the files. Often this information is contained in self- contained files that are included when the programs are compiled, but this is not always the case. Information about the layout of the key fields in indexed RMS files is contained in the file's preamble, and can be displayed using the ANALYZE/RMS command. - Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:23:12 -0500 From: Chico Che <jsisk24@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Dat Files Message-ID: <Xns9B06925565D28Chicoche@216.196.97.131> Bob Gezelter <gezelter@rlgsc.com> wrote in news:67f8fafd-9a50-4372-9661- 0766d8f24e51@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com: > sequential or indexed Thanks a lot for your help, the ANALYZE/RMS does give you info I needed. One question, I get fields that fit but at end it seems there is extra data that seems it's like comment or addl desc but no point in the analyze command that gives me this. Any ideas? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:37:30 -0400 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Dat Files Message-ID: <a7ednR1X8qwH6inVnZ2dnUVZ_s3inZ2d@comcast.com> Chico Che wrote: > I have an OpenVMS Alpah System that has RMS data files. I have a .dat file > that if edited you can see clearly fixed length fields in there. The > question I have where would I find the files that would tell me what field > is what The file that might have that information is the source code for the program(s) that write and read the file. Another possibility would be written documentation for the program. and the length of that field. So I can know the data structure of > the dat file. Again, see the source code. If you have no access to the source code, there is very little you can do ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:29:13 -0400 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> Subject: Re: Dat Files Message-ID: <48b49fed$0$1550$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> Chico Che wrote: > I have an OpenVMS Alpah System that has RMS data files. I have a .dat file ANA/RMS/FDL/OUTPUT=myfile.fdl <filename> will give you a full file definition for <filename>. This will include the record format, and if the record format is fixed, its record length. It will also give you definition of each key in the file (position, length, and possibly a field name). It will not give you full field definitions for fields that are not key fields. It will not give you the valid values for each field. So the FDL gives you a start, but you have to reverse engineer the rest, or if you have the original sources, look at them where you will find record layouts. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:18:17 -0400 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> Subject: Re: Putting my Vax in the network Message-ID: <48b45707$0$9654$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com> For each node, assuming DECNET (set host): $MC NCP NCP> SHOW EXEC CHAR NCP> SHOW KNOWN NODES If you can post the output of those commands from both nodes, it may help diagnose the problem. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:56:40 -0700 (PDT) From: FrankS <sapienza@noesys.com> Subject: Re: Putting my Vax in the network Message-ID: <564dfd96-0cc3-4212-9c7a-bfd0c4e023f5@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com> On Aug 26, 10:13=A0am, apogeusiste...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi: > Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network? > I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message: > > vax01> set host vax02 > > %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable Try vax01> set host /telnet vax02 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:26:46 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Putting my Vax in the network Message-ID: <00A7EB42.864CFD3E@SendSpamHere.ORG> In article <564dfd96-0cc3-4212-9c7a-bfd0c4e023f5@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, FrankS <sapienza@noesys.com> writes: >On Aug 26, 10:13=A0am, apogeusiste...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi: >> Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network? >> I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message: >> >> vax01> set host vax02 >> >> %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable > > >Try > >vax01> set host /telnet vax02 Why not just $ telnet vax02? -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC) Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright notice, disclaimer and quotations. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 00:28:44 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Putting my Vax in the network Message-ID: <00A7EB42.CC64478E@SendSpamHere.ORG> In article <564dfd96-0cc3-4212-9c7a-bfd0c4e023f5@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com>, FrankS <sapienza@noesys.com> writes: >On Aug 26, 10:13=A0am, apogeusiste...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi: >> Can you tell me how put my Vax 4100 in my network? >> I made a reboot in this system but I=B4m getting this message: >> >> vax01> set host vax02 >> >> %SYSTEM-F-UNREACHABLE, remote node is not currently reachable > > >Try > >vax01> set host /telnet vax02 The version of UCX he is running is quite old. I would bet that his VMS is old enough too not to have the /TELNET qualifier on the SET HOST com- mand. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM ... pejorative statements of opinion are entitled to constitutional protection no matter how extreme, vituperous, or vigorously expressed they may be. (NJSC) Copr. 2008 Brian Schenkenberger. Publication of _this_ usenet article outside of usenet _must_ include its contents in its entirety including this copyright notice, disclaimer and quotations. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Aug 2008 19:44:06 GMT From: healyzh@aracnet.com Subject: Re: SMGRTL patch available on ITRC ftp site Message-ID: <g91me601no4@enews4.newsguy.com> Rich Jordan <jordan@ccs4vms.com> wrote: > Any word, idea, hint, or rumor about when the VAX patch(es) will be > made available? > We still have two in service production > Plus the workstation on my desk. I'm wondering this as well. Any sign as to which versions will have a fix released for this? I believe V5.5-2 is still fairly widely used, and I personally would like to see the fix released for this version. Assuming of course anyone at HP remembers what a VAX is. Zane ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2008 03:18:48 GMT From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> Subject: Re: [RBL] Current status? Message-ID: <sI3tk.315655$yE1.90990@attbi_s21> Tom Linden wrote: > On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 08:03:44 -0700, Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER > <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote: > >> I just noted that some of my names used in RBL configurations are no >> longer >> there/working. I removed them (and now there is unfortunately only one >> left). >> >> What is the current status of RBLs? >> Which one do you use? >> >> TIA >> > > RBL domains to check: > ZEN.SPAMHAUS.ORG > SPAMCOP.NET > LIST.DSBL.ORG The list.dsbl.org zones are empty as according to their web page they had a server failure according to http://www.dsbl.org/. -John wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:50:11 -0600 From: "Michael D. Ober" <obermd.@.alum.mit.edu.nospam.> Subject: Re: [VMS] SMGRTL Issue Message-ID: <ssydncuXfo8qCynVnZ2dnUVZ_h6dnZ2d@earthlink.com> "Keith Parris" <keithparris_nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:g919sn$cq3$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com... > Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER wrote: >> Q1) Has VMS again been (allowed/invented) at an DEFCON event? > > A presentation on hacking OpenVMS was included as part of the conference > content. OpenVMS was not involved in the Capture-The-Flag game. > >> Q2) Which arguments which 'disallowed' VMS at earlier DEFCON has changed >> now? > > None. > > The Capture-The-Flag (CTF) game rules were changed after DEFCON 9 so that > all participants are required to run the same (supplied) distribution of > Linux. I'm pretty sure the intent was to "level the playing field" among > the participants rather than specifically to exclude OpenVMS. But some > took it as "being asked not to return." > > (Some of us thought about running OpenVMS under simh on top of this > supplied distro, with as much as possible disabled down at the Linux > level.) > More specifically - the OS has to run on an X86 or X64 processor and have a port of a specific monitoring program. This allows Linux, Windows, and, I believe, Mac OS-X running on X86 and X64 hardware. Mike Ober. >> Q3) Were a VMS security flaw found/demonstrated at DEFCON16? > > Yes, a flaw in the Finger client and a buffer overflow vulnerability > (which turned out to be in SMG) were discussed and an exploit > demonstrated. > >> Q4) What is the CVE of this SMG flaw? > > After a quick Google search, I assume you mean Common Vulnerabilities and > Exposures, http://cve.mitre.org/ > > I can't answer this one. > >> Q5) Was this security flaw of VMS used to take over a VMS system at >> DEFCON? > > I wasn't there, but I understand it was demonstrated. > >> A13) Most of all, install the (Install 1 - still not MUP - grade) SMGRTL >> ECO > > I got an e-mail which indicates these may be in the process of being > re-released as MUPs. > ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2008.468 ************************