INFO-VAX	Wed, 09 Jul 2008	Volume 2008 : Issue 380

   Contents:
Another BIND vulnerability (cache poisoning)
Re: Another new VMS system.
Re: Another new VMS system.
Re: Another new VMS system.
Re: Another new VMS system.
Re: Another new VMS system.
inserting row to RDB with key returned
Re: inserting row to RDB with key returned
Re: inserting row to RDB with key returned
Re: Python for VMS
RDB insert with returned key
Re: Show of support for Distributed NetBeans
Re: Show of support for Distributed NetBeans
Re: VMS SAN Primer
Why did process quota go down?
Re: Why did process quota go down?

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:36:16 -0400
From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca>
Subject: Another BIND vulnerability (cache poisoning)
Message-ID: <4874323d$0$2045$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com>

Slashdot article:
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/08/195225

Offfical CERT article:
http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113


The CERT announcement only goes by company name, and there is no status
from HP. At least Microsoft has quickly acklnowledged that its virus
collection software known as Windows is vulnerable.

Alpha VMS hjas Bind 9. VAX-VMS is Bond 8, but then HP has never
acknowledged/provided any "vulnerable/not-vulnerable status for the many
BIND-8 issues over the years.

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:36:08 -0500
From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>
Subject: Re: Another new VMS system.
Message-ID: <QaQck.31729$ZE5.7875@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com>

Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> See http://www.sgx.com/
> Click "SGX moves to new securities trading engine".
> 
> Or see : http://tinyurl.com/5zpm8k for a
> less-capable-browser-version...


I find no information (in google...) that describes the actual platform 
this runs on... I cannot even find anything on Quest-ST - do you have a 
source that describes the platform?

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:25:56 GMT
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?=
Subject: Re: Another new VMS system.
Message-ID: <EXQck.802$U5.684@newsb.telia.net>

Michael Austin wrote:
> Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
>> See http://www.sgx.com/
>> Click "SGX moves to new securities trading engine".
>>
>> Or see : http://tinyurl.com/5zpm8k for a
>> less-capable-browser-version...
> 
> 
> I find no information (in google...) that describes the actual platform 
> this runs on... I cannot even find anything on Quest-ST - do you have a 
> source that describes the platform?

No, there isn't any.

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Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2008 06:55:57 +0800
From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotspamnotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Another new VMS system.
Message-ID: <g50r88$6e4$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au>

Hi,

"Jan-Erik Söderholm" <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote in message
news:5CHck.777$U5.393@newsb.telia.net...
> See http://www.sgx.com/
> Click "SGX moves to new securities trading engine".
>
> Or see : http://tinyurl.com/5zpm8k for a
> less-capable-browser-version...

Great news! Especially as this is after the Nasdaq OMX acquisition.

Cheers Richard Maher

PS. If anyone knows (or bothers to work out) what the Java Applet is for on
that page then please let me know. (Live ticker "push" technology?)

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 17:02:41 -0600
From: Keith Parris <keithparris_nospam@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Another new VMS system.
Message-ID: <g50rmh$ajr$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>

Michael Austin wrote:
> I find no information (in google...) that describes the actual platform 
> this runs on... I cannot even find anything on Quest-ST - do you have a 
> source that describes the platform?

The key phrase is "a Nasdaq OMX trading engine." OMX-based exchanges 
have an OpenVMS disaster-tolerant cluster at their core.

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 22:08:34 -0700
From: "Jeffrey H. Coffield" <jeffrey@digitalsynergyinc.com>
Subject: Re: Another new VMS system.
Message-ID: <nJXck.13044$jI5.11126@flpi148.ffdc.sbc.com>

Richard Maher wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> "Jan-Erik Söderholm" <jan-erik.soderholm@telia.com> wrote in message
> news:5CHck.777$U5.393@newsb.telia.net...
>> See http://www.sgx.com/
>> Click "SGX moves to new securities trading engine".
>>
>> Or see : http://tinyurl.com/5zpm8k for a
>> less-capable-browser-version...
> 
> Great news! Especially as this is after the Nasdaq OMX acquisition.
> 
> Cheers Richard Maher
> 
> PS. If anyone knows (or bothers to work out) what the Java Applet is for on
> that page then please let me know. (Live ticker "push" technology?)
> 
> 
I can't easily tell if this is the same concept, but look at 
www.monex.com. That ticker simply reads a file every few minutes that is 
updated by the trading system which is an OpenVMS cluster.

Jeff Coffield
www.digitalsynergyinc.com

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 13:35:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: CodeAmazon <shastaw@gmail.com>
Subject: inserting row to RDB with key returned
Message-ID: <152e0736-aece-4917-b293-4ab87b6ac254@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>

I'd like to insert a new record into a table in my database and get
back the automatically generated key to use in an insertion in another
table subsequently.

My first thought would be to use java.sql.Statement's
execute(stmt,Statement.RETURN_GENERATED_KEYS) method, and then
retrieve the value.  I've tried that and several other variants, with
"unsupported feature" errors as the result.

What is the best way to insert a row and grab the automatically
generated key value from within a Java program.  We're running Oracle
Rdb V7.2-120, and Java 1.5.0

Thanks,
Shasta

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:30:52 GMT
From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan-Erik_S=F6derholm?=
Subject: Re: inserting row to RDB with key returned
Message-ID: <g0Rck.803$U5.712@newsb.telia.net>

CodeAmazon wrote:
> I'd like to insert a new record into a table in my database and get
> back the automatically generated key to use in an insertion in another
> table subsequently.
> 
> My first thought would be to use java.sql.Statement's
> execute(stmt,Statement.RETURN_GENERATED_KEYS) method, and then
> retrieve the value.  I've tried that and several other variants, with
> "unsupported feature" errors as the result.
> 
> What is the best way to insert a row and grab the automatically
> generated key value from within a Java program.  We're running Oracle
> Rdb V7.2-120, and Java 1.5.0
> 
> Thanks,
> Shasta

I had a very similar "problem" with Python just the other day.

Rdb Dynamic SQL (which all/most non-compiled Rdb interfaces
are built on) do not support the RETURNING clause of the
INSERT statement). One workaround is to "return" the
value into a variable and later SELECT that variable in
a separate statement. Here is what works in Python :

http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/piforum/viewtopic.php?t=129

Regards,
Jan-Erik Soderholm

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:42:30 GMT
From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing)
Subject: Re: inserting row to RDB with key returned
Message-ID: <00A7C491.5062E0DB@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>

In article <152e0736-aece-4917-b293-4ab87b6ac254@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, CodeAmazon <shastaw@gmail.com> writes:

>I'd like to insert a new record into a table in my database and get
>back the automatically generated key to use in an insertion in another
>table subsequently.
>
>My first thought would be to use java.sql.Statement's
>execute(stmt,Statement.RETURN_GENERATED_KEYS) method, and then
>retrieve the value.  I've tried that and several other variants, with
>"unsupported feature" errors as the result.
>
>What is the best way to insert a row and grab the automatically
>generated key value from within a Java program.  We're running Oracle
>Rdb V7.2-120, and Java 1.5.0


I couldn't make this work with Ibatis under Java on Java 1.5.0 and Rdb 7.2;
couldn't make the "returning dbkey" accept a result value, and I've currently
got a bad workaround in place (write it out with a known unique value and then 
do a separate select to recover the dbkey).

If you get a good answer to this, please post it here.

You might also want to try on the oraclerdb mailing list a jcc.com

-- Alan

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 21:25:04 GMT
From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Alan Winston - SSRL Central Computing)
Subject: Re: Python for VMS
Message-ID: <00A7C48E.E0987E87@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>

In article <4873856b$0$1277$426a34cc@news.free.fr>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Fran=E7ois_Pi=E9ronne?= <jf.pieronne@laposte.net> writes:
>As requested by someone Python can, now, be used with Apache (CSWS).
>One of my friend has successfully ported mod_python and mod_wsgi on 
>OpenVMS IA64. Some simple scripts and a more large application like 
>django run without any problem.
>If someone want to try it, let me know.


It'll take me a while to get to where I can use it, but I'm very much
interested in the Apache mods, especially if they're packaged as nicely
as your distributions.

Thanks for all the great tech you bring in to the VMS world and make available.

-- Alan

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 18:10:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: CodeAmazon <shastaw@gmail.com>
Subject: RDB insert with returned key
Message-ID: <cd6d7aed-ea80-4907-b195-99e06fb10c46@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>

I'm trying to insert a row in an Oracle Rdb V7.2-120 database, using
Java 1.5.  I need to capture the automatically generated key for use
in the next step of my program.

My default assumption would be to use java.sql.Statement's
execute(stmt, Statement.RETURN_GENERATED_KEYS) and then check the
results.  Unfortunately that (and all similar execute options I've
tried) return an unsupported feature error.

Can someone point me to a solution for getting back the key value, or
to the API for supported features in the native driver?

- Shasta

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 19:39:36 -0500
From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.mac.com>
Subject: Re: Show of support for Distributed NetBeans
Message-ID: <H7Sdnd21YJ9UlenVnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@speakeasy.net>

Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:

> 
> When I tested Dist NB last fall, a major showstopper was that
> it was impossible to get it running remotely over a pair
> of DSL modems/routers with my Windows laptop on a NAT'ed
> home network ("kitchen table") and the Alpha behind another
> NAT router in my office down-town. The way RMI (the remote
> Java call) works, it gets uppset by the NAT'ed
> networks. I do not know of any current workaround for that.

There is a workaround for a NAT-related problem described in the Known
Problems and Restrictions section of the installation guide at:

<http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/netbeans/docs/DISTNETBEANS_IGUIDE_RELNOTES.HTML#known>

I'm not 100% sure that's exactly your problem, but it might be worth a look.

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 20:42:57 -0500
From: David J Dachtera <djesys.no@spam.comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Show of support for Distributed NetBeans
Message-ID: <487417A1.CC9B6A8B@spam.comcast.net>

"Craig A. Berry" wrote:
> 
> Jan-Erik Söderholm wrote:
> 
> >
> > When I tested Dist NB last fall, a major showstopper was that
> > it was impossible to get it running remotely over a pair
> > of DSL modems/routers with my Windows laptop on a NAT'ed
> > home network ("kitchen table") and the Alpha behind another
> > NAT router in my office down-town. The way RMI (the remote
> > Java call) works, it gets uppset by the NAT'ed
> > networks. I do not know of any current workaround for that.
> 
> There is a workaround for a NAT-related problem described in the Known
> Problems and Restrictions section of the installation guide at:
> 
> <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/netbeans/docs/DISTNETBEANS_IGUIDE_RELNOTES.HTML#known>
> 
> I'm not 100% sure that's exactly your problem, but it might be worth a look.

Unless Java is doing something it either shouldn't be doing or doesn't
need to do, I don't see why it should care. I can FTP from the desk at
work (W/XP-Pro, 10.x.x.x) to the Jensen at home (VMS V7.2-2, Multinet
V4.4, 192.168.1.17) just fine using the Reflection/FTP client. Oddly
enough, both Multinet and UCX choke. Haven't figured that one out yet...

D.J.D.

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Date: Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:44:24 +0200
From: Johnny Billquist <bqt@update.uu.se>
Subject: Re: VMS SAN Primer
Message-ID: <g50u4q$cjc$1@Tempo.Update.UU.SE>

Ed Wilts skrev:
> On Jul 5, 4:00 am, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spam...@vaxination.ca> wrote:
>> David J Dachtera wrote:
>>> ...however, it is just storage. A LUN. It's still up to the host
>>> operating environment to manage that storage. Such management is NOT the
>>> array's job in a FCSF/SAN anymore than it would be in an HSJ on a
>>> CI-based storage array.
>> A CI would only support VMS (or I guess Ultrix/DEC Unix).
> 
> CI is only for VMS.  Ultrix never supported CI.

Yes it did/do. I occasionally still boot Ultrix on our 8650, connected to a HSC90.

	Johnny

-- 
Johnny Billquist                  || "I'm on a bus
                                   ||  on a psychedelic trip
email: bqt@softjar.se             ||  Reading murder books
pdp is alive!                     ||  tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 12:17:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: tadamsmar <tadamsmar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Why did process quota go down?
Message-ID: <a5932b9d-760e-4a13-bb90-4b0709d1ac08@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>

I had a detached process that exceeded a quota:

"-SYSTEM-F-EXBYTLM, exceeded byte count" quota

and started to not work right.

show proc/quota showed that it's  Buffered I/O byte count quota had
gone from ~98000 to ~980.  Why would that happen?  Any way to prevent
that?

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Date: Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:29:40 -0400
From: "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: Why did process quota go down?
Message-ID: <I8Wdnd5PzqpVXe7VnZ2dnUVZ_r_inZ2d@comcast.com>

tadamsmar wrote:
> I had a detached process that exceeded a quota:
> 
> "-SYSTEM-F-EXBYTLM, exceeded byte count" quota
> 
> and started to not work right.
> 
> show proc/quota showed that it's  Buffered I/O byte count quota had
> gone from ~98000 to ~980.  Why would that happen?  Any way to prevent
> that?

I'd make a wild ass guess that your process has a resource leak.  What 
is your process supposed to be doing?  What application are you running 
in that process.  Etc, etc.

It's probably not relevant in this case but in general it's a good idea 
to mention your hardware platform (VAX, Alpha, Itanic) and the version 
of VMS you are running.

See: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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