INFO-VAX Thu, 29 Nov 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 654 Contents: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Re: NFS client accessing Windows acting badly (long) Re: NFS client accessing Windows acting badly (long) Re: VMS 30th anniversary contest Re: VMS 30th anniversary contest Re: VMS 30th anniversary contest Re: VMS 30th anniversary contest [DFG T3.0] Internal error Re: [DFG T3.0] Internal error ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:09:57 -0500 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > we were invited there, so I only had to pay for the gas on the drive. > We topped up in upstate NY to avoid buying gas in Canada. What is the > price of gas up there? Price of Gas actually went down until just recently.We saw it go below $1.00 per litre until a couple of weeks ago when it started to play it yo-yo game between 1.00 and 1.10. Worldwide, in countries whose currency is not tagged to the USD, the price of fuel has not risen by that much. one USA-gallon = 3.78 litres. So at a $1.01 exchange rate, with $1.05 fuel, it comes to just about USD$4.00 per US gallon. Note that petrol stations In quebec that are situated near the USA and Ontario borders get special tax treatment to make them competitive with the stations across the border and you get betwen 5 to 10 cents off the price per litre. The per barrel price, quoted in USD, has gone up mostly to match the decrease in value of the USD. At the last OPEC meeting, they discussed moving to the EURO to price oil, but in order to not offend the USA, they did not include this in any written communiqués. The big question is whether the current fiscal mess is temporary and will start to improve when the current administration leaves, or whether this is a more permanent re-adjustement of the US currency. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:27:44 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: In article <949c2145-1cc1-40f8-807e-c2db48122d53@e1g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, Neil Rieck writes: > > >On Nov 28, 4:14 pm, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >> In article <474dc024$0$7607$157c6...@dreader2.cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb" writes: > >[...snip...] > >> >> >> >As for leadership, you are your own masters when it comes to choosing a >> leader - choose a good one. >> >> That ain't happening any time soon I can assure you. Both parties suck >> and their candidates in the running suck even more. >> > >What happens if Hillary gets in? (BTW, I have no opinion on her one >way or the other). This means that 2 families, the Bushs and the >Clintons, will have dominated presidential politics for 24 years. Exactly. Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton... yikes! Time to check out. >IMHO it is always a good idea to keep changing things. Politics in the USA needs more than a change! Revolution. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:13:09 +0100 From: "Dr. Dweeb" Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: <474e90b6$0$7605$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk> JF Mezei wrote: > JF Mezei wrote: >> Price of Gas actually went down until just recently.We saw it go >> below $1.00 per litre until a couple of weeks ago when it started to >> play it yo-yo game between 1.00 and 1.10. > > Update. Went to fetch a chocolate bar at the local dépanneur (by bike, > of course). The oil company's fancy random number generator set the > price of gas at $1.14 today. Last time it was that high was when a > barrel of oil broke the $40 mark. > > The oil companies known the elasticity of the market and know that > avove 1.15, the people start to take active measures to reduce > consumption. > It won't stay that high long. US$2.10 here (according to www.xe.com conversion) yesterday, though the price varies on a daily basis. Dweeb ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 2007 07:25:52 -0600 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: In article <00c4e2d2-3ea5-42e8-8b61-2ceaf1f0b932@o42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Neil Rieck writes: > > A track where America once again leads all of the world's economies in > everything it does. A track where America's focus swings back to > dominance in science, technology and engineering while putting away > religious fundamentalism, xenophobia, rejection of science. A track > before the country was politically divided. A track before anyone > thought that fighting wars in Vietnam or Iraq were a good idea or > possibly an economic benefit. You want the 1950s? Before Vietnam was Korea. Women stayed in the kitchen and guys put grease in thier hair. And the far right fought against racial equality instead of gay rights. Rejection of science seems to be a property of religious fundamentalism. That and xenophobia have always been with us. Studies now show that conservative thinkers have trouble with the notion that there's more than one right way to do something. They've always been with us and they always will. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 2007 07:27:35 -0600 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: In article <474dc024$0$7607$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>, "Dr. Dweeb" writes: > As for leadership, you are your own masters when it comes to choosing a > leader - choose a good one. Not quite. The current voting laws give more power to the parties and only the less central candidates tend to survive, polarizing the elected. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 2007 07:34:06 -0600 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: In article <9e8722f7-dd16-45cb-b772-dda61937c380@d27g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Neil Rieck writes: > > I hope you don't think it's like throwing a switch. Vietnam started > under Kennedy and ramped up under Johnson. My "memory" of the Canadian > dollar being worth more than the US buck was around 1971-72. Read your history books. Eisenhower sent the military into Vietnam before Kennedy was elected. He called the first deployments "military advisors". And like many other wars since the begining of the 20th century, oil was partially involved. There was a theory that there was oil under the Gulf of Tonkin. However the then recent defense of South Korea was more likely on the mind since oil at the time flowed cheaply and easily out of a middle east. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 2007 07:40:29 -0600 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: In article <9fd1f$474de50a$cef8887a$1530@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei writes: > > Not sure why you would consider it "nice" to go back 40 years in > technology and design. Works for UNIX. 8-( But doing software engineering for NASA, I can tell you there is much to be made of the KISS principle. And the differences between Apollo and Orion are primarily in areas where the Space Shuttle actually had some potential to succeed, like reusability. Unlike Apollo, Orion capsules are to be reuseable. Unlike shuttle, Orion complicating its design and execution. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 2007 07:43:49 -0600 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: In article , JF Mezei writes: > > The oil companies known the elasticity of the market and know that avove > 1.15, the people start to take active measures to reduce consumption. It > won't stay that high long. You want cheap gas? Find some imigrants (you know, the folks the conservatives don't like). The oil companies have found that they can't raise prices too high in neihborhoods with high imigrant population because, unlike "native" Americans, when the price is too high the imigrants will stop buying. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:13:31 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: <720f26e5-5538-4d29-9e20-86c3649e366d@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Nov 28, 6:15 pm, JF Mezei wrote: > Neil Rieck wrote: > > under Kennedy and ramped up under Johnson. My "memory" of the Canadian > > dollar being worth more than the US buck was around 1971-72. > > The last parity with USD had been seen in 1976 due to the Olympics being > held in Montreal. Shortly after that event, the currency weakened, and > later in 1976, when the separatists were elected in Quebec, it started a > long slide of the CAD. (not all of it was caused by the PQ, but that is > when it started to go down). JF. The Canadian economy is very small compared to the US. When our dollar goes up it is usually because their dollar has gone down. If you visit this site: http://fx.sauder.ubc.ca/data.html ...then build a chart converting US dollars into Canadian dollars over the period of 1-Jan-1971 to 1-Dec-2007 (be sure to select "Monthly Averages" and "Price Notation"). You'll see the following: The Canadian dollar goes above the US dollar from Mar-72 through to Mar-73. The currency drifts down a penny or two for the rest of the year until it pops above the US dollar from Nov-73 to Jan-25. The dollar drifts down again then pops above the US dollar from Feb-76 to Nov-76. Remembering that these are monthly averages, the Canadian dollar doesn't pop up above the US dollar again until Oct-2007. Now when an industrial country goes to war, they tend to use up their stock piles (and economic reserves) for a time. When these become depleted, contractors are employed to manufacture replacements which tend to go directly to the battle. Once a war ends, the stock piles are replenished until the contracts are terminated. That is almost exactly what we see in those numbers. p.s. Does anyone out there have access to currency averages prior to 1971? NSR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:25:54 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: <61338ff4-de2e-4dac-953e-986b5c49b797@o6g2000hsd.googlegroups.com> On Nov 28, 6:15 pm, JF Mezei wrote: > Neil Rieck wrote: > > under Kennedy and ramped up under Johnson. My "memory" of the Canadian > > dollar being worth more than the US buck was around 1971-72. > > The last parity with USD had been seen in 1976 due to the Olympics being > held in Montreal. Shortly after that event, the currency weakened, and > later in 1976, when the separatists were elected in Quebec, it started a > long slide of the CAD. (not all of it was caused by the PQ, but that is > when it started to go down). JF. With all due respect to you Quebecors, there wasn't any problem with the PQ taking power in 1976, It was the passage of "bill 101" in 1997 that forced an exodus of business from Montreal to Toronto which didn't stop until 1980. (remember the slogan "101 or 401"?) But at the end of the day, this move was revenue neutral to Canada and probably didn't affect the value of our dollar (although currency traders do attempt to blow things like "civil unrest" out of proportion to justify what they do). NSR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 07:32:08 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: <270680c9-dfbf-4c19-9057-04afbb5ab1aa@r60g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> On Nov 28, 4:31 pm, VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > In article <303adb89-0e85-457b-861e-9ce261885...@g30g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Neil Rieck writes: > {...snip...} > > I am not against the stem-cell research. proNJ has most of the major > pharmaceutical research in the states, so why must the state fund that > which, until now, has run fine as commercial enterprise? I may have > been happy to see the referendum succeed if the proNJ's fiscal house > wasn't in such a shambles but expending $.5Billion, when the state is > already so deep into the hole that it may ever crawl out, without ANY > guarantee that the research would pay off is wrong. The state's con- > stitution (not that any constitutional rights exist in the USA) says > that the government can't gamble with tax dollars. > Your public/private points reminded me that HHMI (Howard Hughes Medical Institute) is allowed to work in these areas because they receive no public funding in these areas. My only comment on this is that some projects might be too big to be done alone (like going to the Moon in 1970). I hope that privately funded organizations are cooperating in order to avoid dupicated work. NSR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 16:49:55 +0100 From: "Dr. Dweeb" Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: <474edfa4$0$7611$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk> Bob Koehler wrote: > In article <474dc024$0$7607$157c6196@dreader2.cybercity.dk>, "Dr. > Dweeb" writes: > >> As for leadership, you are your own masters when it comes to >> choosing a leader - choose a good one. > > Not quite. The current voting laws give more power to the parties > and only the less central candidates tend to survive, polarizing > the elected. Then join the party if you do not like the candidates. Exert influence. Compainining about the "power" of the parties (general eveywhere, not just US) is hardly likely to cause change. Dweeb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:15:21 -0800 (PST) From: Neil Rieck Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: <37fe5ff1-67b3-4cd5-baef-135d5338aafd@t47g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> On Nov 28, 5:00 pm, JF Mezei wrote: > Neil Rieck wrote: [...snip...] > > That is NASA's current mission as given by the current president of the > USA. Retire Shuttle and build an Apollo system with the contractors that > used to do Shuttle with the hopes of going to the moon in 2020. > > Not sure why you would consider it "nice" to go back 40 years in > technology and design. > I'm a person who prefers to view the world through the prism of optimism so I would not want to go back to 1960. But those years were very optimistic times and I remember seeing Werner von Braun on TV saying that moon bases in the late 1970s would lead to a manned Mars mission in the 1980s. And if you think about it, that is where some US politicians took the wrong path (which affected the whole planet). Any industrial economy can only do one really big thing like "making war" or "having a space program", not both. The US congress shut down the manned space program to divert money to the Vietnam War effort but in the end, there was no "Gulf of Tonkin" incident and the "domino theory" was just something to justify the war. What is really weird is that defense contractors would have been required to do a space program so they would benefit either way, but a space program wouldn't have consumed all those human lives. Currently, the US is burning money in Iraq as history is repeating itself (you can tell by the currency) while thousands of people are dying unnecessarily (Sadam didn't have any WMDs; Sadam had nothing to do with "911"). Meanwhile, Japan, India, and China have announced unmanned lunar missions. China is currently in orbit around the moon with hi-def cameras and other experiments. They intend to do an unmanned soft-landing with a robotic rover in 2012 and a sample-return mission in 2017. While it is true that the US has plans for a manned landing between 2020 and 2024, I'm sure that the American congress will be making tough choices shortly and this stuff will be delayed indefinitely. NSR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:25:09 -0800 (PST) From: DaveG Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: <51effe04-1b95-40e0-9dc8-f2580e1c8a20@y43g2000hsy.googlegroups.com> On Nov 29, 10:15 am, Neil Rieck wrote: > On Nov 28, 5:00 pm, JF Mezei wrote: > > > Neil Rieck wrote: > [...snip...] > > > That is NASA's current mission as given by the current president of the > > USA. Retire Shuttle and build an Apollo system with the contractors that > > used to do Shuttle with the hopes of going to the moon in 2020. > > > Not sure why you would consider it "nice" to go back 40 years in > > technology and design. > > I'm a person who prefers to view the world through the prism of > optimism so I would not want to go back to 1960. But those years were > very optimistic times and I remember seeing Werner von Braun on TV > saying that moon bases in the late 1970s would lead to a manned Mars > mission in the 1980s. > > And if you think about it, that is where some US politicians took the > wrong path (which affected the whole planet). Any industrial economy > can only do one really big thing like "making war" or "having a space > program", not both. The US congress shut down the manned space program > to divert money to the Vietnam War effort but in the end, there was no > "Gulf of Tonkin" incident and the "domino theory" was just something > to justify the war. What is really weird is that defense contractors > would have been required to do a space program so they would benefit > either way, but a space program wouldn't have consumed all those human > lives. > > Currently, the US is burning money in Iraq as history is repeating > itself (you can tell by the currency) while thousands of people are > dying unnecessarily (Sadam didn't have any WMDs; Sadam had nothing to > do with "911"). Meanwhile, Japan, India, and China have announced > unmanned lunar missions. China is currently in orbit around the moon > with hi-def cameras and other experiments. They intend to do an > unmanned soft-landing with a robotic rover in 2012 and a sample-return > mission in 2017. > > While it is true that the US has plans for a manned landing between > 2020 and 2024, I'm sure that the American congress will be making > tough choices shortly and this stuff will be delayed indefinitely. > > NSR I agree. After spending 15 months in Vietnam back in '68 - '69, I often wonder why we were there in the first place, just like Iraq today. What have we learned? Seems like nothing. I'd rather we spent our dollars on seeing "what's out there", but this doesn't feed the ever hungry war machine. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:48:45 -0500 From: "Richard B. Gilbert" Subject: Re: NASA gets SGI 2048-core Itanium 2 supercomputer Message-ID: <474EFB7D.4090403@comcast.net> DaveG wrote: > On Nov 29, 10:15 am, Neil Rieck wrote: > >>On Nov 28, 5:00 pm, JF Mezei wrote: >> >> >>>Neil Rieck wrote: >> >>[...snip...] >> >> >>>That is NASA's current mission as given by the current president of the >>>USA. Retire Shuttle and build an Apollo system with the contractors that >>>used to do Shuttle with the hopes of going to the moon in 2020. >> >>>Not sure why you would consider it "nice" to go back 40 years in >>>technology and design. >> >>I'm a person who prefers to view the world through the prism of >>optimism so I would not want to go back to 1960. But those years were >>very optimistic times and I remember seeing Werner von Braun on TV >>saying that moon bases in the late 1970s would lead to a manned Mars >>mission in the 1980s. >> >>And if you think about it, that is where some US politicians took the >>wrong path (which affected the whole planet). Any industrial economy >>can only do one really big thing like "making war" or "having a space >>program", not both. The US congress shut down the manned space program >>to divert money to the Vietnam War effort but in the end, there was no >>"Gulf of Tonkin" incident and the "domino theory" was just something >>to justify the war. What is really weird is that defense contractors >>would have been required to do a space program so they would benefit >>either way, but a space program wouldn't have consumed all those human >>lives. >> >>Currently, the US is burning money in Iraq as history is repeating >>itself (you can tell by the currency) while thousands of people are >>dying unnecessarily (Sadam didn't have any WMDs; Sadam had nothing to >>do with "911"). Meanwhile, Japan, India, and China have announced >>unmanned lunar missions. China is currently in orbit around the moon >>with hi-def cameras and other experiments. They intend to do an >>unmanned soft-landing with a robotic rover in 2012 and a sample-return >>mission in 2017. >> >>While it is true that the US has plans for a manned landing between >>2020 and 2024, I'm sure that the American congress will be making >>tough choices shortly and this stuff will be delayed indefinitely. >> >>NSR > > > I agree. After spending 15 months in Vietnam back in '68 - '69, I > often wonder why we were there in the first place, just like Iraq > today. What have we learned? Seems like nothing. I'd rather we > spent our dollars on seeing "what's out there", but this doesn't feed > the ever hungry war machine. > A lot of people wonder why we are in Iraq! Dubyah wanted a war? Finish what Daddy started? Insanity!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 23:51:44 -0800 (PST) From: info@princesssparkle.co.uk Subject: Re: NFS client accessing Windows acting badly (long) Message-ID: On Oct 14, 5:44 am, Gremlin wrote: > Hi Experts!! > > Using OpenVMS 8.2 with HP TCP/IP showing: > [SYSMGR] > TCPIP SHO VER > > HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.5 > on a DEC 3000 Model 400 running OpenVMS V8.2 > > I have created an NFS share on a Windows2003 server using MS Windows > Services for UNIX V3.5 (latest I can find) and it is configured and > running happily. All my accesses are logged in Windows and none are > creating any type of error. The Windows NFS share name is NFSDATA. > > From VMS, I can mount and unmount the NFS share successfully and the > Windows log file shows the activity as being successful. The command I > use from VMS is: > > > tcpip mount dnfs1:[data] /system/host=dl380/path=nfsdata/struc=5 > > and I get > > %TCPIP$DNFSMOUNT-S-MOUNTED, NFSDATA mounted on _DNFS1:[DATA] > > When I check the created device (DNSF1:), I see: > > [SYSMGR] > SHO DEV DNFS1 /FU > > Disk DNFS1:, device type Foreign disk type 7, is online, mounted, > file-oriented > device, shareable, accessed via DFS or NFS. > > Error count 0 Operations completed > 9 > Owner process "" Owner UIC > [SYSTEM] > Owner process ID 00000000 Dev Prot > S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:RWPL,W:RWPL > Reference count 1 Default buffer size > 512 > Total blocks 426766656 Sectors per track > 0 > Total cylinders 0 Tracks per cylinder > 0 > > Volume label "DL380$NFSDAT" Relative volume number > 0 > Cluster size 0 Transaction count > 1 > Free blocks unknown Maximum files allowed > 0 > Extend quantity 0 Mount count > 1 > Mount status System ACP process name > "DNFS1ACP" > > Volume Status: ODS-5, access dates enabled. > > When I access the "root" that I created, I get: > > > DIR DNFS1:[000000] > > Directory DNFS1:[000000] > > DATA.DIR;1 > > Total of 1 file. > > Now, the problem is that if I try to access any files in any of the > directories in/under that share, I get: > > > DIR DNFS1:[FILES] > %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening DNFS1:[FILES]*.*;* as input > -RMS-E-DNF, directory not found > -SYSTEM-F-TIMEOUT, device timeout > > and > > > DIR DNFS1:[DATA.FILES] > %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening DNFS1:[DATA.FILES]*.*;* as input > -RMS-E-DNF, directory not found > -SYSTEM-F-TIMEOUT, device timeout > > I get no error showing in the Windows log files. I have tried > increasing the timeout on the mount, but it just takes longer to return > the error!! > > I have also tried the following mount commands (notice the alternate or > no use of leading / for the path): > > tcpip mount dnfs1:[data] /system/host="dl380"/path="nfsdata"/struc=5 > > tcpip mount dnfs1:[data] /system/host="dl380"/path="/nfsdata"/struc=5 > > tcpip mount dnfs1:[data] /system/host="dl380"/path="\nfsdata"/struc=5 > > also trying > > > tcpip mount dnfs1: /system/host=dl380/path=nfsdata/struc=5 > > tcpip mount dnfs1:[000000] /system/host=dl380/path=nfsdata/struc=5 > > and various combinations with/without the quotes. > > All result in successful mounts but no ability to access any > directories/files. No error on Windows and only the timeout in VMS. > > I have tried this from two different OpenVMS servers, running the same > version of VMS and TCP/IP and get the same results. I don't have any > other OS handy to test NFS connectivity. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. I don't know i fthis helps but here is an article on it which might: http://www.davidstclair.co.uk/networking/create-an-nfs-share-with-microsoft-services-for-uni-15.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:51:00 -0700 From: "Michael D. Ober" Subject: Re: NFS client accessing Windows acting badly (long) Message-ID: <13ktddmkgjc999e@corp.supernews.com> I'll keep this short and simple - According to VMS Support, it's a Windows problem. According to M$, they don't support the VMS NFS Client so they won't help you. I went with Hummingbird. Mike. wrote in message news:b0556769-afd0-4ec0-b90d-03400d5bfba3@y20g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... > On Oct 14, 5:44 am, Gremlin wrote: >> Hi Experts!! >> >> Using OpenVMS 8.2 with HP TCP/IP showing: >> [SYSMGR] > TCPIP SHO VER >> >> HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.5 >> on a DEC 3000 Model 400 running OpenVMS V8.2 >> >> I have created an NFS share on a Windows2003 server using MS Windows >> Services for UNIX V3.5 (latest I can find) and it is configured and >> running happily. All my accesses are logged in Windows and none are >> creating any type of error. The Windows NFS share name is NFSDATA. >> >> From VMS, I can mount and unmount the NFS share successfully and the >> Windows log file shows the activity as being successful. The command I >> use from VMS is: >> >> > tcpip mount dnfs1:[data] /system/host=dl380/path=nfsdata/struc=5 >> >> and I get >> >> %TCPIP$DNFSMOUNT-S-MOUNTED, NFSDATA mounted on _DNFS1:[DATA] >> >> When I check the created device (DNSF1:), I see: >> >> [SYSMGR] > SHO DEV DNFS1 /FU >> >> Disk DNFS1:, device type Foreign disk type 7, is online, mounted, >> file-oriented >> device, shareable, accessed via DFS or NFS. >> >> Error count 0 Operations completed >> 9 >> Owner process "" Owner UIC >> [SYSTEM] >> Owner process ID 00000000 Dev Prot >> S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:RWPL,W:RWPL >> Reference count 1 Default buffer size >> 512 >> Total blocks 426766656 Sectors per track >> 0 >> Total cylinders 0 Tracks per cylinder >> 0 >> >> Volume label "DL380$NFSDAT" Relative volume number >> 0 >> Cluster size 0 Transaction count >> 1 >> Free blocks unknown Maximum files allowed >> 0 >> Extend quantity 0 Mount count >> 1 >> Mount status System ACP process name >> "DNFS1ACP" >> >> Volume Status: ODS-5, access dates enabled. >> >> When I access the "root" that I created, I get: >> >> > DIR DNFS1:[000000] >> >> Directory DNFS1:[000000] >> >> DATA.DIR;1 >> >> Total of 1 file. >> >> Now, the problem is that if I try to access any files in any of the >> directories in/under that share, I get: >> >> > DIR DNFS1:[FILES] >> %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening DNFS1:[FILES]*.*;* as input >> -RMS-E-DNF, directory not found >> -SYSTEM-F-TIMEOUT, device timeout >> >> and >> >> > DIR DNFS1:[DATA.FILES] >> %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening DNFS1:[DATA.FILES]*.*;* as input >> -RMS-E-DNF, directory not found >> -SYSTEM-F-TIMEOUT, device timeout >> >> I get no error showing in the Windows log files. I have tried >> increasing the timeout on the mount, but it just takes longer to return >> the error!! >> >> I have also tried the following mount commands (notice the alternate or >> no use of leading / for the path): >> > tcpip mount dnfs1:[data] /system/host="dl380"/path="nfsdata"/struc=5 >> > tcpip mount dnfs1:[data] /system/host="dl380"/path="/nfsdata"/struc=5 >> > tcpip mount dnfs1:[data] /system/host="dl380"/path="\nfsdata"/struc=5 >> >> also trying >> >> > tcpip mount dnfs1: /system/host=dl380/path=nfsdata/struc=5 >> > tcpip mount dnfs1:[000000] /system/host=dl380/path=nfsdata/struc=5 >> >> and various combinations with/without the quotes. >> >> All result in successful mounts but no ability to access any >> directories/files. No error on Windows and only the timeout in VMS. >> >> I have tried this from two different OpenVMS servers, running the same >> version of VMS and TCP/IP and get the same results. I don't have any >> other OS handy to test NFS connectivity. >> >> Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > > I don't know i fthis helps but here is an article on it which might: > > http://www.davidstclair.co.uk/networking/create-an-nfs-share-with-microsoft-services-for-uni-15.html > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:35:41 -0500 From: "David Turner, Island Computers" Subject: Re: VMS 30th anniversary contest Message-ID: <13ktg55j592rpb0@news.supernews.com> Well we're giving away an XP1000 that I bet will outlive an HP RX. And...without any strings attached You can be pakistani, chinese Canadian British French or American We dislike everyone equally here !!!! (Just kidding, you know we "love" you all.... as long as you keep buying stuff from us ! No serial number required - we just ask that you don't put it on Ebay the day you get it !!!!!! ;0) "JF Mezei" wrote in message news:6698d$474e2c4b$cef8887a$1453@TEKSAVVY.COM... > What happens if the serial number of the oldest system is published on the > internet and everyone wno enters the contests enters that one serial > number ? > > Will HP then have to give away one IA64 contraption to each participant > who entered that serial number ? :-) :-) :-) :-) ;-) ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 2007 07:49:08 -0600 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: VMS 30th anniversary contest Message-ID: In article , VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: > > I asked Sue about this when the letter arrived. My old VAXen are not HP > servers. Anyway, if anyone here has an old 11/780 in service, you should > be the winner. Must be some. But right now I can't go back past VMS 4.7 on an 11/785. It appears to be the version of VMS "in production", not the age or model of the processor that HP is interested in. Although I've used versions that would only boot on an 11/780, I've never seen anything pre VMS 2.5 "in production", and I know those particular systems have been retired. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 2007 07:52:44 -0600 From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) Subject: Re: VMS 30th anniversary contest Message-ID: In article <6698d$474e2c4b$cef8887a$1453@TEKSAVVY.COM>, JF Mezei writes: > What happens if the serial number of the oldest system is published on > the internet and everyone wno enters the contests enters that one serial > number ? > > Will HP then have to give away one IA64 contraption to each participant > who entered that serial number ? :-) :-) :-) :-) ;-) Reminds me of VW's 25th Aniversary of sales in the US. They promised a new Beetle to owner of the oldest running Beetle in the US. Problem was, one fellow had it and claimed it was given to him. The other fellow had the title and claimed he'd only loaned it to the first fellow. VW didn't want thier promotion to become a court battle. They gave away two new cars. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:59:36 -0800 (PST) From: AEF Subject: Re: VMS 30th anniversary contest Message-ID: <967e4425-1ad9-4f27-9ef1-15e5e216069f@t47g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> On Nov 29, 9:49 am, koeh...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote: > In article , VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: > > > > > I asked Sue about this when the letter arrived. My old VAXen are not HP > > servers. Anyway, if anyone here has an old 11/780 in service, you should > > be the winner. > > Must be some. But right now I can't go back past VMS 4.7 on an > 11/785. > > It appears to be the version of VMS "in production", not the age or > model of the processor that HP is interested in. Although I've used > versions that would only boot on an 11/780, I've never seen > anything pre VMS 2.5 "in production", and I know those particular > systems have been retired. I'm definitely puzzled by the motivation for this contest. "You bought our system eons ago, never upgraded, so now we'll reward you for not giving us any additional business by giving you your very own Integrity server! We hope you enjoy porting your app from VMS 2.5 to 8.3!" Oh, I see, they want to sell consulting services for the port (but to only one luck winner!). :-) Additionally, some in this ng often tell me to upgrade every time I post a problem or question! ;-) (OK, I assume even my VMS V6.1 systems aren't old enough.) AEF ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 2007 17:10:28 +0100 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER) Subject: [DFG T3.0] Internal error Message-ID: <474ef284$1@news.langstoeger.at> Does anyone know if the field test for DFG 3 has ended already? I still use T3.0 (on OpenVMS Alpha V8.3 with all current ECOs) and I just got an abort of a /LEVEL=1 defragmentation (right after the start): %DFG-W-INTERR, internal error: directory_name_match: pattern starts wrong %DFG-F-INTERR, internal error and %DFG-W-UNCRECOVERR, unrecoverable error Target volume was DISK$mumble (_DSA0:) Any comments? -EPLAN PS: I just noted that I've error log entries, means it could be a h/w issue... -- Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER Network and OpenVMS system specialist E-mail peter@langstoeger.at A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 17:57:12 GMT From: "Jerry Alan Braga" Subject: Re: [DFG T3.0] Internal error Message-ID: what is the diff of dfg versus dfu ? I am using dfu 3.2 on openVMS alpha 8.3 "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOeGER" wrote in message news:474ef284$1@news.langstoeger.at... > Does anyone know if the field test for DFG 3 has ended already? > I still use T3.0 (on OpenVMS Alpha V8.3 with all current ECOs) and I just > got an abort of a /LEVEL=1 defragmentation (right after the start): > > %DFG-W-INTERR, internal error: directory_name_match: pattern starts wrong > %DFG-F-INTERR, internal error > > and > > %DFG-W-UNCRECOVERR, unrecoverable error > Target volume was DISK$mumble (_DSA0:) > > Any comments? > > -EPLAN > > PS: I just noted that I've error log entries, means it could be a h/w > issue... > -- > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER > Network and OpenVMS system specialist > E-mail peter@langstoeger.at > A-1030 VIENNA AUSTRIA I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.654 ************************