INFO-VAX Tue, 23 Oct 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 579 Contents: Re: .NET Mono for VMS RE: .NET Mono for VMS Re: DE500-XA on XP1000 Extract from audit journal Re: Extract from audit journal Re: Extract from audit journal Re: Extract from audit journal Re: OpenVMS-8.3 boot speed-up? Re: OpenVMS-8.3 boot speed-up? Re: OpenVMS-8.3 boot speed-up? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 18:42:21 -0400 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= Subject: Re: .NET Mono for VMS Message-ID: <471d2743$0$90268$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> Main, Kerry wrote: >>> Quick thought - are you planning to simply get Mono to run on OpenVMS >>> or as part of the port, adopt it to take advantage of some of the >>> strengths of OpenVMS i.e. A-A clustering, high security etc? >> Mono & C# is no different than Fortran, Pascal or Cobol in that >> regard. > > Yes, but all clusters (on all platforms) typically require applications to follow > a set of rules native to that platform in order to take advantage of the clustering > available on that platform. > > It is one thing to get an application to simply run on a platform, but to get it > Running & supported in an A-A cluster is another level of planning, design and > testing. It is still the task of those writing the app in C# not the people writing the C# compiler and runtime libraries. Arne ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 03:10:46 +0000 From: "Main, Kerry" Subject: RE: .NET Mono for VMS Message-ID: > -----Original Message----- > From: Arne Vajh=F8j [mailto:arne@vajhoej.dk] > Sent: October 22, 2007 6:42 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > Subject: Re: .NET Mono for VMS > > Main, Kerry wrote: > >>> Quick thought - are you planning to simply get Mono to run on > OpenVMS > >>> or as part of the port, adopt it to take advantage of some of the > >>> strengths of OpenVMS i.e. A-A clustering, high security etc? > >> Mono & C# is no different than Fortran, Pascal or Cobol in that > >> regard. > > > > Yes, but all clusters (on all platforms) typically require > applications to follow > > a set of rules native to that platform in order to take advantage of > the clustering > > available on that platform. > > > > It is one thing to get an application to simply run on a platform, > but to get it > > Running & supported in an A-A cluster is another level of planning, > design and > > testing. > > It is still the task of those writing the app in C# not the people > writing the C# compiler and runtime libraries. > > Arne Technically, you are partially right i.e. clustering requires multiple levels of support i.e. HW, OS, DB and Applications in order for a complete overall clustering solution. Regards Kerry Main Senior Consultant HP Services Canada Voice: 613-592-4660 Fax: 613-591-4477 kerryDOTmainAThpDOTcom (remove the DOT's and AT) OpenVMS - the secure, multi-site OS that just works. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:25:16 -0700 From: "Tom Linden" Subject: Re: DE500-XA on XP1000 Message-ID: On Mon, 22 Oct 2007 10:59:54 -0700, Rob Brooks wrote: > "Tom Linden" writes: >> Is it supported on 7.3-2 - 8.3? > > The DE500-AA, -BA, and -XA are supported on those versions of the > operating > system. I suppose it's possible that the XP1000 was never qualified > with those > options, but I'd expect them to work correctly. > > Please report back if you have experiences to the contrary. > HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.5 - ECO 2 on a COMPAQ Professional Workstation XP1000 running OpenVMS V8.2 SYSMAN> io auto SYSMAN> exit FREJA> mc lancp LANCP> sho config LAN Configuration: Device Parent Medium/User Version Link Speed Duplex Size MAC Addres s Current Address Type ------ ------ ----------- ------- ---- ----- ------ ---- ------------- ---- ----------------- ---- EWA0 Ethernet X-116 Up 100 Full 1500 00-00-F8-71-5 E-BD AA-00-04-00-07-08 UTP DE500 EWB0 Ethernet X-111 N/A 100 Full 1500 00-00-F8-03-C 9-87 00-00-F8-03-C9-87 UTP DE500 EWA0 is the one on the motherboard and connected to port 5 Switch1 Switch1#sho int f0/5 FastEthernet0/5 is up, line protocol is up EWB0 is the DE500-XA PCI card connected to port 5 Switch2 Switch2#sho int f0/5 FastEthernet0/5 is up, line protocol is up This is not an area in which I can claim any proficiency. Any recommendations on what to try are welcome. -- PL/I for OpenVMS www.kednos.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:57:56 -0400 From: norm.raphael@metso.com Subject: Extract from audit journal Message-ID: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 006DAB648525737C_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" I have been asked to look into reporting interactive disuser-ing of accounts. Is there a way to extract this data from the audit journal showing the username invoking authorize, the date-time, and the username that was disuser-ed? I'm sure it's all in there. --=_alternative 006DAB648525737C_= Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII"
I have been asked to look into reporting interactive disuser-ing of accounts.
Is there a way to extract this data from the audit journal showing the
username invoking authorize, the date-time, and the username that was
disuser-ed?

I'm sure it's all in there.
 --=_alternative 006DAB648525737C_=-- ------------------------------ Date: 22 Oct 2007 15:32:16 -0500 From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) Subject: Re: Extract from audit journal Message-ID: In article , norm.raphael@metso.com writes: > This is a multipart message in MIME format. > --=_alternative 006DAB648525737C_= > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > I have been asked to look into reporting interactive disuser-ing of > accounts. > Is there a way to extract this data from the audit journal showing the > username invoking authorize, the date-time, and the username that was > disuser-ed? > > I'm sure it's all in there. > > --=_alternative 006DAB648525737C_= > Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" > > >
I have been asked to look into reporting > interactive disuser-ing of accounts. Presumably you mean with the ANALYZE/AUDIT command rather than writing a program. >
Is there a way to extract this data > from the audit journal showing the Extracting the data is done with the /BINARY qualifier. Absent that, you just get an ascii report. >
username invoking authorize, the date-time, > and the username that was >
disuser-ed? ANALYZE/AUDIT only provides two levels of detail - there is no way to add additional information to the higher level as suggested by 800-53 AU-3 Control Enhancement (1). >
I'm sure it's all in there.
I agree, and it is output for the more detailed format. The event type you are looking for is called AUTHORIZATION on the DCL interface. The particular event you are looking for will be one of NSA$_SYSPRV_8 NSA$_BYPASS_10 NSA$_GRPPRV_3 NSA$_IMP_SYSPRV_3 but I don't see a way to specify that with the DCL command, so you will have to do downstream filtering. You will further need to filter based on whether the FLAGS field indicates a different New value for the DISUSER/DISACNT from the Original value. I have just determined experimentally that changing the DISUSER flag from False to False _does_ create an audit record, even though that audit record leaves no indication of which flag was (NOT) changed. > > --=_alternative 006DAB648525737C_=-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:47:25 GMT From: VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG Subject: Re: Extract from audit journal Message-ID: In article , norm.raphael@metso.com writes: > > >This is a multipart message in MIME format. >--=_alternative 006DAB648525737C_= >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >I have been asked to look into reporting interactive disuser-ing of >accounts. >Is there a way to extract this data from the audit journal showing the >username invoking authorize, the date-time, and the username that was >disuser-ed? > >I'm sure it's all in there. Hi Norm, This can be accomplished with Intruder Alert (one of the VMS products that formerly had a RAXCO moniker associated with it). If you or the company decide a commercial product to do what you've been asked to do would be appropriate, contact ProvN Technology. http://www.ProvN.com -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" http://tmesis.com/drat.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 21:02:17 -0700 From: Ken Fairfield Subject: Re: Extract from audit journal Message-ID: <5o5a39Fl7bfgU1@mid.individual.net> norm.raphael@metso.com wrote: > I have been asked to look into reporting interactive disuser-ing of > accounts. > Is there a way to extract this data from the audit journal showing the > username invoking authorize, the date-time, and the username that was > disuser-ed? > > I'm sure it's all in there. I did this in a previous position. You need to SET AUDIT/AUDIT/ENABLE=(AUTHORIZE[,other classes]) Then it is a smop to take the full output from ANALYZE/AUDIT/EVENT=AUTHORIZATION to find the information you need. I think I merely did a SEARCH on the output looking for "Flags:" and DISUSER. You need to be a little smart in order to select events where the "old flags" *didn't* contain DISUSER but the "new flags" did. Look at an example and you'll be able to figure it out. The event record contains the target username as well as the username of the invoking process. HTH, Ken -- Ken & Ann Fairfield What: Ken dot And dot Ann Where: Gmail dot Com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 15:32:49 -0700 From: Doug Phillips Subject: Re: OpenVMS-8.3 boot speed-up? Message-ID: <1193092369.561442.235580@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com> On Oct 22, 11:16 am, koeh...@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote: > In article <1192899580.253427.147...@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Neil Rieck writes: > > > Yesterday I started my annual OpenVMS in my usual way: I restored a > > total backup of our AS-4100 (development platform) to an AS-2100 > > junker sitting in the corner then upgraded the 2100. The upgrade went > > without incident and all my apps worked properly but I also noticed > > that the second boot of OpenVMS-8.3 was noticably faster than 8.2 > > This would not be the first time that an update to VMS made things > run faster. > > Of course, none was as impressive as rebooting my first Alpha! Had a client that went from PDP-11/34 to Alpha. The Payroll clerk was upset at first because she used to start the P/R calc, go on break and it would be finishing up about the time she came back. On the Alpha, the calc was finished before she could even stand up. "Now how am I going to get my break?" she said. The hardest part of that conversion was convincing people that their job actually did run because the menu would return so fast (as fast in some cases as if they'd answered "Continue? N" on the 11/34). One A/P clerk had about 2 copies of a report on the printer and about 10 stacked up in the queue when I happened to walk by and she said: "This report won't print anymore." After watching her select and start the report -- "See, it just goes back to the menu!" -- I led her across the room to the printer where she was "shocked" to find the third copy printing as I deleted the queue entries. I put an "Enter OK to continue" message in the login that told everyone something like "Welcome to the new OpenVMS Alpha system. This computer is very fast and your job probably did run even though you think it didn't. Check it before you run it again." That, after an accountant closed 3 periods because "yeah, the screen was telling me what period it was going to close but I thought there was something wrong because the menu came back as soon as I typed Y and hit enter." I *had* told everyone before the cut-over date about the speed, and that we'd removed most of the progress messages and would just display "Started" and "Finished" (which often flashed by so fast you couldn't read it), but they really couldn't comprehend until they actually experienced it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 16:13:23 -0700 From: AEF Subject: Re: OpenVMS-8.3 boot speed-up? Message-ID: <1193094803.477551.306280@e34g2000pro.googlegroups.com> On Oct 22, 11:20 am, "Syltrem" wrote: > "Neil Rieck" wrote in message > > news:1192899580.253427.147790@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > > > > > Yesterday I started my annual OpenVMS in my usual way: I restored a > > total backup of our AS-4100 (development platform) to an AS-2100 > > junker sitting in the corner then upgraded the 2100. The upgrade went > > without incident and all my apps worked properly but I also noticed > > that the second boot of OpenVMS-8.3 was noticably faster than 8.2 > > > I was in a hurry (because our developers always scream when they can't > > access the 4100) so I quickly upgraded the 4100 from 8.2 to 8.3 then > > noticed the same thing: the second boot of 8.3 was noticably faster > > than 8.2 > > > I wished I would have measured the before + after boot times so I > > could report some hard numbers. Has anyone else noticed this? > > > Neil Rieck > > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge, > > Ontario, Canada. > >http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/ > > It may be faster but I can't say I noticed anything here. > Since my last reboot dates back 8 months, it's not all that important. > > But I do know M$ made windoze boot much faster since XP, and with this kind > of OS it is indeed a big plus, reboot being a prime windoze feature. But the shutdown takes so long! I theorized that the longer shutdown is actually "pre-booting" so it only appears that the boot goes faster. In reality, it was already mostly booted! (Yes, I'm kidding.) > Nevertheless, if VMS is to boot faster, then it probably means that overall > it will also operate faster. And that's good ! > > My 2 cents > > Syltrem AEF ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 20:17:43 -0400 From: JF Mezei Subject: Re: OpenVMS-8.3 boot speed-up? Message-ID: <7f0c6$471d3dad$cef8887a$31838@TEKSAVVY.COM> On VAX, there was a patch for 7.3 that changed the "write bitmap" procedure and that made a HUGE difference to boot time because before that, the system would just take forever to complete that procedure very early in the boot. Is it possible that this was introduced in the 8.2 to 8.3 upgrade on Alpha ? ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.579 ************************