INFO-VAX Fri, 05 Jan 2007 Volume 2007 : Issue 9 Contents: Re: Need help running a Decmate II Re: SCP / SFTP from Windows to VMS Re: TLZ06 cleaning cycle Updated VMS Information - First one of 2007 Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Re: vmware VMS ISO ? Re: What method(s) to connect to VMS from Mac OS X through X11? Re: What method(s) to connect to VMS from Mac OS X through X11? Re: Why are some updates skipped during 7.3.2 UPDATE patch? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2007 01:46:20 GMT From: Michael Austin Subject: Re: Need help running a Decmate II Message-ID: Roger Ivie wrote: > On 2006-12-31, Michael Austin wrote: > >>The DECMateII required a boot/program floppy - It's only real function was >>as a dedicated word-processor. > > > Not true. In addition to WPS, they can run OS/8 (although DEC didn't As I said, in all the years I was a field engineer, this was the only purpose for which I saw they were sold and used. (FE from 1984-1990 (Dallas and Charlottesville, VA - best year-1/2 vacation I have ever taken...)when I moved to Regional Rdb Field Support). While it may have done those things, the instances where someone actully did it were very few and very far between. :) -- Michael Austin. Database Consultant ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jan 2007 11:03:20 -0800 From: "Bobby" Subject: Re: SCP / SFTP from Windows to VMS Message-ID: <1167937400.402554.191490@11g2000cwr.googlegroups.com> > I have tried CONVERTing the file to StreamCR, StreamLF and Stream before > downloading with WinSCP but none produce a file that Windows Notepad > "likes". The difference in file formats can be confusing. I routinely copy text files from VMS to WinXP without any issues. I use the built-in XP FTP command line, Filezilla, RCP and others. I usually put the VMS source files into Stream_LF record format... usually using a different text editor than TPU to begin with (i.e., one that defaults to storing files in Sream_LF). What's confusing is that your Stream_LF file isn't transferring correctly? If you do a dir/full on the file does it show the record format as Stream_LF? Bobby ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jan 2007 18:07:13 -0800 From: "AEF" Subject: Re: TLZ06 cleaning cycle Message-ID: <1167962833.912346.170590@51g2000cwl.googlegroups.com> Doug Phillips wrote: > tadamsmar wrote: > > How often should a TLZ06 be cleaned? > > > > How may 90 M tapes can you fill before you need to clean? > > > > I tend to clean when I do an image backup, but that might be too often, > > only a couple of > > 90 M tapes are filled between image backups on some of my systems. > > > > I hear that cleaning tends to wear out the heads. > > DEC recommended running a cleaning tape every 2 weeks or after every 50 > hours of usage, and the cleaning tapes I've used are good for only 25 > cleanings. Cleaning too often does wear out the heads and this usually > manifests itself first by showing positioning errors, maybe along with > parity errors that don't go away when you clean, then complete failure > to mount. All TLZ06's available today are refurbs --- and you could go Interesting. HP DAT cleaning cartidges say extra cleaning is harmless (well, of course they'd say that). Also, circa 2000/2001, a support person who came on site to swap some of my TLZ07 drives gave me a copy of his secret troubleshooting cheat sheet. It said to try run the cleaning tape FOUR time. I kid you not: FOUR times. It also said the first two errors in ANAL/ERROR output are the most important to look at. Several months ago I found that switching from DDS-2 to DDS-1 reduced my troubles. But now I'm having trouble with a drive that gets errors during a verify pass! When I take the tape out, it is almost entirely wound onto the take-up reel! (The last time this drive did this, the tape was found to be fine with a separate BACKUP/COMPARE operation!) > through a couple before finding a reliable one, even if the seller has > tested them thoroughly. You'd probably want a newer drive, i.e. TLZ10, > for a replacement. Maybe more than a couple if you have my luck! > > Parity errors seem to be a good indicator of dirty heads, but by then > (if you're running unattended) you've potentially lost a backup. I've > found 50 hours to be too close to max, and usually clean after 30 to 40 > hours. That works out to monthly for me. Cleaning every 2 weeks could > be way too often if usage is light, unless you have a "dirty" > environment. > > If you log your usage, it shouldn't be hard to determine your cleaning > cycle. Well, it can't hurt to try. AEF ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jan 2007 16:10:11 -0800 From: "Sue" Subject: Updated VMS Information - First one of 2007 Message-ID: <1167955811.463865.103910@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Dear Newsgroup, Well here is the first OpenVMS Updated Information for 2007. This one is pretty long since for the first time I sent out a pre-warning mail so folks could send me cool information which worked pretty well. So I will continue to do that. I hope that folks have had the chance to listen to the VMS Audio Cast on OpenVMS.org that is really worth your time (see Sue's Fav's for a pointer). Also if you have not looked into NetBeans for VMS Alpha or I64 its really worth it (see From VMS Engineering). As always I have nothing to do with hiring folks the job is just here as information. Warm Regards as always, Sue Index 1=2E0 Sue's Fav's 1.0.1 VMS Audio Cast link 1.0.2 VMS Slogan of the week 1.0.3 The OpenVMS Technical Journal Info 1.0.4 The OpenVMS Boot Camp Info 1.0.5 hobbyists is attempting to develop a DCL procedure 1.0.6 Brand new, Quad-core Xeon Golden Eggs 1.0.7 New Book - The Minimum You Need to Know About Java on OpenVMS 2=2E0 Time Sensitive 2.0.1 Coming in Feb Encompass Canada Seminars 3=2E0 From VMS Engineering 3.0.1 availability of Distributed NetBeans Version T5.0 FT2 for OpenVMS Alpha and I64 3.0.2 ABS V4.3, V4.3A and V4.4 ECO Released 3.0.3 PERFORMANCE DATA COLLECTION DCL - Ambassadors 4=2E0 From Our Partners 4.0.1 Attunity provides data access solutions for RMS and Oracle Rdb on HP Integrity Servers 4.0.2 Single processor CHARON VAX emulations of the VAX 4000 and 6000 systems are now running up to 120 VUPs on single processor 4.0.3 Raxco Software Seeking Beta Testers for Products Ported to Integrity Platform 4.0.4 Introducing TrendsThatMatter performance consultancy company 5.0 Jobs 5=2E0.1 PARSEC Group is looking for an Inside Sales Consultant ___________________________________________________________________________= ______ 1=2E0 Sue's Fav's 1=2E0.1 VMS Audio Cast http://www.openvms.org/ right nav bar 1=2E0.2 VMS Slogan of the week - I have time to party because I run OpenVMS! Thanks to Bruce C 1=2E0.3 The OpenVMS Technical Journal received over 50,100 views in 2006. Speaking of the Technical Journal we will be focusing on OpenVMS E-Business and related technologies for the June issues. We will have other topics but that will be the focus. 1=2E0.4 The OpenVMS Boot Camp is still scheduled for the week of May 20th many thanks to the people that keep asking 1=2E0.5 From Dave D One of the OpenVMS hobbyists is attempting to develop a DCL procedure that can used in batch for automated annual hobbyist license renewal requests. OpenVMS hobbyists who think this might be useful and/or have suggestions for possible implementation are welcome to correspond with the author. Your ideas will be helpful in the formation of this hopefully useful tool. Monitor the comp.os.vms Usenet newsgroup or Google that group for the keywords "WGET" and "re-licensing". The associated URL would be (long, may wrap, sorry): it does wrap http://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.vms/search?hl=3Den&group=3Dcomp.os..= vms&q=3Dwget+re-licensing&qt_g=3D1 1=2E0.6 Brand new, Quad-core Xeon HP DL380-G5 Golden Eggs has been added in the library: Direct link: http://goldeneggs.spyderbyte.com/geggs/GEIDL380G5x.pdf Warm regards, Matti Patari Email: Matti.Patari@kolumbus.fi Self service Library for Golden Eggs: http://goldeneggs.spyderbyte.com/ 1=2E0.7 New Book - The Minimum You Need to Know About Java on OpenVMS" Now shipping Order page: https://www.icusc.com/NOV21_WEBSTORE.asp?search_fd2=3D*JAVA* Book information page: http://www.logikalsolutions.com/logikalsolutions_products.html Eventually Barnes & Noble on-line will be listing it as well. They take a few weeks to process things. _______________________________ 2=2E0 Time Sensitive 2=2E0.1 Coming in Feb Encompass Canada Seminars in Toronto Feb 20th and Montreal Feb 22nd - See you there Visit http://www.encompasscanada.com/ for on going details _________________________________ 3=2E0 From VMS Engineering 3=2E0.1 OpenVMS Engineering is pleased to announce the availability of Distributed NetBeans Version T5.0 FT2 for OpenVMS Alpha and OpenVMS I64. Distributed NetBeans allows you to run the NetBeans integrated development environment (IDE) on your desktop system to develop applications on a remote HP OpenVMS system. This latest field test version supports NetBeans 5.0 and NetBeans 5.5. New Features of Distributed NetBeans T5.0 FT2 include =B7 Sun's C/C++ module can now be used with Distributed NetBeans. =B7 3GL and remote Ant compilation settings have been expanded to include "per project" settings. =B7 The latest OpenVMS Java 1.5 kits are now supported. =B7 Improvements have been made to the Distributed menu items on the Project right-mouse click menu. =B7 The Distributed NetBeans plug-in now works with Mac OS. =B7 Problems with the Distributed NetBeans plug-in on Linux have been fixed. =B7 Extra source directories in a project are now supported during initial remote project conversion. The NetBeans IDE, Distributed NetBeans client, and the IDE Server are provided free of charge. Support is provided with your OpenVMS operating system support contract and by the Distributed NetBeans development team. For more information or to download the Distributed NetBeans T5.0 FT2 kit, please visit http://www.hp.com/products/openvms/distributednetbeans/ Best Regards, The Distributed NetBeans Engineering Team ------------------------------------------ 3=2E0.2 ABS V4.3, V4.3A and V4.4 ECO Released =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D The ABS/MDMS Engineering team is happy to announce the availability of ABS ECO kits as follows: 1=2E V4.3 (703) 2=2E V4.3A (802) 3=2E V4.4 (901) This release includes enhancement of the ABS software for 1) ARCHIVE object display to clearly specify the EXPIRATION DATE and RETENTION DAYS criteria and display "--" to the field not applicable for that ARCHIVE 2) Ask a confirmatory question to user before processing the user action of setting RETENTION DAYS to 0, warning user of the consequences. This release also includes announcement for qualification of System Backup to Tape (SBT) for Oracle databases feature of ABS/MDMS V4.3A and V4.4 to backup Oracle10g (10.1.0.3.0) database using Oracle's Recovery Manager on OpenVMS Alpha V8.2. The kit can be obtained in the following ways - 2) External location for download: The kits are also uploaded to the ITRC website as zip files that are separately available for OpenVMS on VAX, Alpha and I64. Following are the zip file names for the three kits on the three different platforms: 1. V4.3 (703) - ABS_AXPVMS_V43_703.ZIP on OpenVMS Alpha - ABS_VAXVMS_V43_703.ZIP on OpenVMS VAX - ABS_I64VMS_V43_703.ZIP on OpenVMS I64 2=2E V4.3A (802) - ABS_AXPVMS_V43A_802.ZIP on OpenVMS Alpha - ABS_VAXVMS_V43A_802.ZIP on OpenVMS VAX - ABS_I64VMS_V43A_802.ZIP on OpenVMS I64 3=2E V4.4 (901) - ABS_AXPVMS_V44_901.ZIP on OpenVMS Alpha - ABS_VAXVMS_V44_901.ZIP on OpenVMS VAX - ABS_I64VMS_V44_901.ZIP on OpenVMS I64 Regards, ABS Engineering -------------------------------------------- 3=2E0.3 PERFORMANCE DATA COLLECTION DCL Sebastiano Salvati has released a set of DCL procedures which gather statistic data on the use of server geographically dispersed. The data are then collected on a central server. This pool of procedures is used for collection and pre-elaboration of principal Statistic data on the utilization of an OpenVMS computer system. It was originally developed to collect the data of all branch systems around the country of a major national bank. It is part of a software architecture which includes: * One agent running on a remote branch system: STAT$COLLECTOR (this one) * One central collector to gather and store data on a central repository: STAT$CENTRAL_COLLECTOR * A command file to start the agent: STAT$STARTUP * A command file to start the central collector: STAT$CENTRAL_STARTUP * A watch dog command file for the central collector STAT$CENTRAL_WATCHER It is based partially on the use of the MONITOR utility which is bundled with the OpenVMS operating system. 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Contact Chuck Graham at Salem Automation 336-661-0890, ext. 106 cwgraham@salemautomation.com for further details (www.CHARONVAX.com). ------------------------------------------- 4=2E0.3 Raxco Software Seeking Beta Testers for Products Ported to Integrity Platform Raxco Software, Inc., a longtime provider of system management software for OpenVMS, is pleased to announce it has ported its PerfectDisk and PerfectCache software to the Integrity platform. Raxco is currently seeking beta testers to run PerfectDisk and/or PerfectCache on Integrity servers. We are prepared to offer beta testers one (1) free product license and a 50% discount on additional licenses for their participation in the test program. Raxco will provide the beta test requirements. PerfectDisk differs from the OVMS defragmenter in several key ways. While it defragments files it also consolidates the free space on the disk. This provide maximum disk space utilization and improves both disk read and write speeds. The free space consolidation also slows re-fragmentation of the disk. PerfectDisk also arranges files by their access patterns grouping rarely accessed files together. As long as these files remain in this category they do not need to be moved on subsequent defrags. This reduces defrag time and saves resources. Conversely, recently accessed files are located adjacent to the consolidated free space which makes it easier for them to grow with minimal fragmentation. All of this is done in comparable time and with less CPU usage than the OVMS defragmenter. PerfectCache accelerates disk I/O several fold and reduces the time it takes applications to complete a task. In our preliminary testing PerfectCache was up to 20% faster than the OVMS cache technology. PerfectCache on OVMS uses a unique file allocation algorithm that ensures maximum caching and accelerates file access for optimal performance. 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Would prefer individual(s) with knowledge of OpenVMS/Tru64 Consulting, Training & Support Services but are willing to train the right individual(s). ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 21:28:56 -0600 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: US Military bans HTML in emails Message-ID: <459DC5F8.4333071F@spam.comcast.net> Bill Gunshannon wrote: > > In article <459B1E24.D49B3A76@spam.comcast.net>, > David J Dachtera writes: > > Bill Gunshannon wrote: > >> > >> In article <45994666.8290CDCF@spam.comcast.net>, > >> David J Dachtera writes: > >> > Bill Gunshannon wrote: > >> >> > >> >> In article <459807A6.EF027BAC@spam.comcast.net>, > >> >> David J Dachtera writes: > >> >> > Bill Gunshannon wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> In article <459783d4$1@news.langstoeger.at>, > >> >> >> peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) writes: > >> >> >> > In article , JF Mezei writes: > >> >> >> >>http://www.fcw.com/article97178-12-22-06-Web > >> >> >> >>## > >> >> >> >>Due to an increased network threat condition, the Defense Department is > >> >> >> >>blocking all HTML-based e-mail messages and has banned the use of Outlook > >> >> >> >>Web Access e-mail applications, according to a spokesman for the Joint Task > >> >> >> >>Force for Global Network Operations. > >> >> >> >>## > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > Better late than never. I banned them (and MIME mails) some years ago > >> >> >> > (though I run my mail on VMS and don't fear virii/worms)... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > "Text mails only here. No HTML or binaries needed for proper communications..." > >> >> >> > >> >> >> What do you do when someone needs to send a Word document to someone else > >> >> >> at a remote location (inbound or outbound)? The Business Woirld still > >> >> >> runs on MS Office, like it or not. > >> >> > > >> >> > Word documents can also carry malware. Likely to be banned also, sometime soon. > >> >> > >> >> Highly unlikely. Attempts by others to supplant MS Word have, up to this > >> >> point, proved unsuccessful. > >> > > >> > In theory, and admittedly arguably, it already has been supplanted by mandate of > >> > multiple federal laws in some privacy-sensitive industries. > >> > > >> > >> Boy would I like to see those laws. "Unfair restraint of trade" comes > >> immediately to mind. > > > > Read up on HIPAA and, to some extent, Sarb/Ox. > > Both of them specify behaviours. Neither of them specifically bans the > use of any commercial product by name. ...which rather like saying that marijuana is a controlled substance, but "Acapulco Gold (Filter, Regular and Menthol)" is not. More specifically, HIPAA requires, among other things, that privacy be protected. So, software which cannot guarantee the protection of privacy would be excluded by both definition and implication, regardless of the "brand name". > That would be "Unfair restraint > of trade". You are making an interpretation basec on your (erroneous) > concept that it is impossible to secure an MS systems or application. This is not "erroneous". It is, as we all know, profusely documented. > [snip] > But that's my point. They are all the industry knows and there is no > sign that this is going to change anytime soon. How can it? If all > they are willing to use is MS they will never become familiar with > anything else. An IT guy suggesting otherwise puts his job in jeopardy. > What was the old saying? "No one ever put their job in jeopardy by > recommending IBM." Just change that to MS and you have the situation > today. ...although even this is changing, for reasons not limited to security and/or stability. > > > >> Given that there are currently alternatives that are easier to > >> install, more functional and more efficient you would think MS > >> would already be on the down swing. Reality is that they are not. > > > > Reality also is that alternatives are on the up-swing while M$ is likewise. > > (Think: difference in "rate of climb") > > Name the Fortune 500 companies who have abandoned MS corporately! My point would be better illustrated by asking how many companies - regardless of rank, governments and other agencies, etc. are adopting M$-alternatives while still increasing/maintaining their existing levels of M$ deployment? > Heck, make that Fortune 1000. Numbers probably the same anyway. > [snip] > Sorry, the government may allow other options but they are never going > to be allowed to ban MS products. The information cited by the O.P. seems to contradict that. > MS will have to loose in the marketplace I think their crap is loose enough as it is. -- David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems http://www.djesys.com/ Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/ Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/ Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 21:39:18 -0600 From: David J Dachtera Subject: Re: vmware VMS ISO ? Message-ID: <459DC866.5DDD5440@spam.comcast.net> GraphicDave wrote: > > [snip] > VMWare Infrastructure (was ESX) is the 'bare metal' version. That's the only one we seem to use at work. > VMWare Server, Workstation and Player all require a host OS, be it > Windows or Linux. That sounds like the biblical passage about building one's house upon the sand... -- David J Dachtera dba DJE Systems http://www.djesys.com/ Unofficial OpenVMS Marketing Home Page http://www.djesys.com/vms/market/ Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/ Unofficial OpenVMS-IA32 Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/ia32/ Unofficial OpenVMS Hobbyist Support Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/support/ ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jan 2007 13:36:33 -0800 From: sean@obanion.us Subject: Re: What method(s) to connect to VMS from Mac OS X through X11? Message-ID: <1167946593.658334.30960@s34g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Bob, Which IP stack on VMS are you using? Sean Bob Koehler wrote: > In article <1167839953.107057.69930@n51g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, "johnhreinhardt@yahoo.com" writes: > > Okay all you Mac OS X and VMS fans. What is your way of connecting the > > two using X11 on OS X to DECWindows/CDE on VMS? Do you use XDM or > > fix up a set of scripts/DCL procedures or something else? > > > > Mac X11 on the Mac and any one of a couple Mac SSH clients. After > I ssh to the VMS machine I just "mcr vue$master". I do the same from > PC's using cygwin's X server and PuTTY's ssh. Once vue$master is > running on the X server I can do anything I want on the VMS X client. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 19:46:01 -0500 From: bradhamilton Subject: Re: What method(s) to connect to VMS from Mac OS X through X11? Message-ID: <459D9FC9.9090304@comcast.net> Steven M. Schweda wrote: [...] > "ssh -X" seems to be effective, too. FWIW, here's another vote for "ssh -X"; works fine on my wife's iBook, as well as my Linux laptop. [...] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 14:52:57 -0500 From: norm.raphael@metso.com Subject: Re: Why are some updates skipped during 7.3.2 UPDATE patch? Message-ID: "tadamsmar" wrote on 01/04/2007 01:37:09 PM: > > Paul Sture wrote: > > In article <1167925551.438055.210170@i15g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > > "tadamsmar" wrote: > > > > > Here is the command I used: > > > > > > $PROD INSTALL/OPTI=NOCONF/save VMS732_UPDATE > > > > > > It did not ask any questions about install options. > > > > What is the /OPTI=NOCONF doing? > > > > Boy...that's a good question. It was from an old command file. I > thought it > got rid of some confirmation prompts, but that is wrong for the current > PRODUCT command at least. > > I guess it does nothing and I just get default current configuation. > > The only interpretation that makes sense is that it would reverse an > earlier /CONF qualifier, but I don't have one. > PRODUCT INSTALL /CONFIGURATION /CONFIGURATION=(keyword[,...]) Specifies how the configuration choices will be supplied. Keywords are: CURRENT This is the default. It uses values from the product database, which has the current values recorded from the last time the product was installed or reconfigured. PRODUCER Uses values specified by the software manufacturer for this version of the product. INPUT=pcf-name Uses values from the specified product configuration file. OUTPUT=pcf-name Writes configuration choices to the specified product configuration file. If no file name is supplied, creates a file named DEFAULT.PCSI$CONFIGURATION. The keywords CURRENT, PRODUCER, and INPUT are mutually exclusive. Each of these, however, can be used with the keyword OUTPUT. If you specify only one keyword, you can omit the parentheses. I don't know about "/NOCONFIG" In any case I don't see how it affects the original problem: "tadamsmar" wrote on 01/04/2007 10:45:51 AM: -> I got these messages during running the UPDATE patch version 9: -> -> %PCSI-I-OBJSKP, file [SYSEXE]DDTM$XG_SERVER.EXE pertains to an option -> that was not selected; file update skipped -> %PCSI-I-OBJSKP, file [SYSEXE]TPSERV.EXE pertains to an option that was -> not selected; file update skipped -> %PCSI-I-OBJSKP, file [SYSHLP.EXAMPLES]DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM pertains to -> an option that was not selected; file update skipped -> %PCSI-I-OBJSKP, file [SYSLIB]SYS$LIB_C.TLB pertains to an option that -> was not selected; file update skipped -> %PCSI-I-OBJSKP, file [SYSLIB]SYS$STARLET_C.TLB pertains to an option -> that was not selected; file update skipped -> -> I can't find any command options that these messages could refer to. -> -> The DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM one is particularly confusing. I am putting -> on this patch to get the updeated DST processing. -> -> What options are they referring to? > > -- > > Paul Sture > ------------------------------ End of INFO-VAX 2007.009 ************************